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chocolatteballs
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Do you think she did it or not?
Was it the boyfriend?
Was it the drug dealer?
Was it all three?
Would you still give knox one?
All these questions and no answers.
bman
Member
It probably didn't go down the way the Italian prosecutors said it did, but her and her patsy boyfriend were definitely hiding something. Were probably drugged out of their minds, the drug dealer probably did most of it or all of it, but they felt involved enough that their first instinct was to lie and deny everything, and then just stuck to that. The murdered girls family and all her friends seemed to think she did it, and I would trust their instincts over all the shite the lawyers and PR people put out there.
Don't think Knox is that attractive at all actually, very plain, the murdered girl was much prettier.
reddread
Member
It's an odd one, eh? Because the Italian Po-Po fucked up so royally with the evidence, it should never have been that they were convicted in the first place as it just wasn't enough to send them down. The DNA evidence that was there could have been a result of contamination due to their not bagging the evidence for so long, but at the same time it might have been there anyway, which definitely places her at the scene. I'm with others here, I think they were definitely complicit in some way. Probably not in the murder itself, but they knew about it afterwards. She lied about that bar owner doing it and got three years in the clink for slander, but they took that as time already served.
The Kutcher family have been amazingly dignified about the whole matter. They are right when they say "So, if the murderer didn't act alone, but it wasn't these two rich kids who were with him, then just who was it?"
Alfonso Bedoya
Moderator
chocolatteballs said:
she'll make a fortune from all the books and films now.
Now that she's free... this is the next crime.
Only those involved know the truth for sure... but now, this trollop will be free to wander America telling her version, (truth or lies), and making an absolute fortune... she'll probably be disappointed Oprah has packed it in, but then again, it wouldn't surprise me to see Oprah come out of retirement for a one-off, Amanda Knox special... her and the family talking about her horrible ordeal, but, "she was so brave, and never gave up hope, and we're just so glad to have our little girl home again"... *puke*
But... what about the truth?... if the Italian investigators, and prosecution truly believe they had the right people, but lost the case over twisted details, or someones careless blunder... would they be allowed to come to the states to point out the facts?
Would they fuck... the case is now closed, and any claim to the contrary would be stifled... Western justice is a joke... too many strict tenets, but no common sense.
Bill
Member
Hopefully somebody will advise her against it. Yep being stuck in jail wrongly for 4 years is wrong, but the Kercher's lost their daughter in appalling circumstances. The latter is a far worse ordeal. I like the US but it does produce a high number of self righteous, self obssessed individuals.
sidney
Member
Right, the fact she's middle class and attractive means the press went easy on her. If she was a working class geordie with 8 kids and dustbins outside her house, nobody would give a fuck. In fact many cunts would be raging for her to get prosecuted/hanged simply because she's a chav
Secondly, the fact that her family is middle class means they can afford to fight a huge, and quite sickening PR campaign, were they allowed extraordiary access into their private lives in an attempt to appear normal, approachable etc. I understand why they did it - to help their daughter, but it marks a worrying turning point in high profile murder cases, where TV and media become intertwined with legal proceedings. That's wrong and fucked.
Thirdly, the fucking useless police fucked up the evidence FFS
Fourthly, sat watching BBC News 24 waiting for the verdict like so many other cunts was a particular low point for the human race. It's sick to see real guilt, real grief, real horror, real terror on the faces of young people who's lives hang in the balance... While you're sat at home on your nice comfy chair with a cup of tea. And then Sky's Kay Burley - absolute scumbag - said in not so many words 'the family could have reacted to the verdict a bit more enthusiastically so it made beter telly'
Fifthly, I don't know if the pair of them are guilty or not because I haven't seen all of the evidence, so I'm not going to have an opinion on that
And finally, I definitely would no questions asked
lol.
the real twats are the Italian police, free on a fucking technicallity ... cos of a bodged job.
squigs
Member
Quote 'Right, the fact she's middle class and attractive means the press went easy on her. If she was a working class geordie with 8 kids and dustbins outside her house, nobody would give a fuck. In fact many cunts would be raging for her to get prosecuted/hanged simply because she's a chav'
How unlike you to degenerate nearly every topic into class warfare, from start to finish it has been a case of trial by media. She has not got an easy ride from the media and she is still guilty in the eyes of the British media. One has to presumes guilt beyond reasonable doubt and it hasn't been proven enough.
sidney
Member
squigs said:
Quote 'Right, the fact she's middle class and attractive means the press went easy on her. If she was a working class geordie with 8 kids and dustbins outside her house, nobody would give a fuck. In fact many cunts would be raging for her to get prosecuted/hanged simply because she's a chav'How unlike you to degenerate nearly every topic into class warfare, from start to finish it has been a case of trial by media. She has not got an easy ride from the media and she is still guilty in the eyes of the British media. One has to presumes guilt beyond reasonable doubt and it hasn't been proven enough.
Class warfare... FFS
I'm not waging war, I'm pointing out the facts. A working class person can't afford to invest so much time and money into a case like this in order to raise its profile.
Raphaelle's Dad flew an 11 mile round trip every week to see his son in prison. He also hired top lawyers and an influential MP in order to give the case some much needed heavyweight support. The Knox family also fought a similarly massive PR campaign that included comments and sympathy from Donald Trump and Oprah FFS. This kind of epic campaigning just isn't possible for most people
Have the British rags done her over? I've not seen many tbf. But I wouldn't be surprised if they had found her guilty as of course the victim, Kercher, was British. But the yanks fucking love the pair of them. Trump reckons Knox will become a star... And she will if he continues giving the family money
squigs
Member
sidney said:
Class warfare... FFSI'm not waging war, I'm pointing out the facts. A working class person can't afford to invest so much time and money into a case like this in order to raise its profile.
Raphaelle's Dad flew an 11 mile round trip every week to see his son in prison. He also hired top lawyers and an influential MP in order to give the case some much needed heavyweight support. The Knox family also fought a similarly massive PR campaign that included comments and sympathy from Donald Trump and Oprah FFS. This kind of epic campaigning just isn't possible for most people
Have the British rags done her over? I've not seen many tbf. But I wouldn't be surprised if they had found her guilty as of course the victim, Kercher, was British. But the yanks fucking love the pair of them. Trump reckons Knox will become a star... And she will if he continues giving the family money
Without going into much detail, any jury in Britain or the US would have been instructed to find the accused innocent of charges, the Italian thing is farcical, it allowed the use of statements which had been retracted and used at best dodgy forensics and evidence gathering.
The prosecution disseminated false information to the media, in particular referring to Knox as an out of control sexual deviant, her campaign has had to fight fire with fire. The likes of Douglas Preston have been accused of waging campaigns against the prosecutor in this case. Preston is experienced in this field and has rightfully highlighted the grave errors made.
I think she might be guilty but reasonable doubt has to still exist.
Alfonso Bedoya
Moderator
I don't know much about the case to be honest... couldn't really give a shit... but the amount of news coverage it generated today... it was hard not to be aware of it.
The thing is... in the west, our justice system has one philosophy that it protects more than any other... better that 10 guilty should be found innocent, than one innocent should be found guilty... and I think that's a good place to start... but the problem is the legal bureaucracy... the machinery... the western legal system is to justice, what modern religion is to spiritual faith... the fundamental idea is fine... but infinitely exploitable.
For the average Joe, justice is a simple, but often unfair social necessity, like paying taxes... and the road to get there is as expedient as possible... but for those with the resources, the legal system will bend over backwards to accommodate any and all possibilities... whether it leads to the truth or not... justice is not the priority... only the perceived pursuit of it.
Just1n
Member
We should be talking about Shrien Dewani who had his wife murdered in a township in Cape Town last year and is now fight extradition to South Africa on the grounds that our prisons are to harsh. Of course they harsh you cunt. You gonna get fucked up the dirt track and get given the gift of HIV which you deserve.
http://www.iol.co.za/sundayindependent/how-van-zyl-thwarted-shrien-dewani-s-plan-1.1117812
back on topic; are there any decent pics of her yet, i.e., has she had a shower and her hair done?
han
Member
Just1n said:
We should be talking about Shrien Dewani who had his wife murdered in a township in Cape Town last year and is now fight extradition to South Africa on the grounds that our prisons are to harsh. Of course they harsh you cunt. You gonna get fucked up the dirt track and get given the gift of HIV which you deserve.http://www.iol.co.za/sundayindependent/how-van-zyl-thwarted-shrien-dewani-s-plan-1.1117812
guilty as fuck
had a bender as a boyfriend the queer cocksucking accessory to murder
she was cute though, his mrs
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