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Alfonso Bedoya
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sheesh said:
What I liked about Bilbao's performance is that they didn't mess about when they got the ball. They passed quickly and with purpose.
Sounds like a team I used to support...
bman
Member
Alfonso Bedoya said:
Nope... I'm not having that.They were good... better than us... but we were shit... absolute dreck...
On our day, we beat them every time.
But our midfield is rubbish and it's about fuckin time Ferguson admits that.
I agree with that. Scholes and Carrick in midfield would handle this bunch. Our only good spell was when we had both Giggs and Carrick in the middle, but then Fergie put useless Ando on for Giggs. Giggs, Scholes, and Carrick are probably our only potential midfield players with the skill and class to keep possession when being pressed hard like that. Nani has the skill to beat the press, but not the brains, he always overcomplicates things and ends up surrounded by three opposing players.
Smalling Rio Evans Evra
Tony V Scholes Carrick Nani
Roo Welbeck
Should be enough to beat them by two goals.
DeadRevel
Member
Our midfield is poor, but I don’t understand why everyone is saying tonight means we need new signings. The problem was playing Park, Jones and Giggs in midfield when none of them are proper midfielders. Carrick, Ando and Clev would have been a completely difference proposition.
Young, Rooney, Hernandez and Park were poor. Rafael good except last goal. Smalling and Evans very good, De Gea CLASS.
Alfonso Bedoya
Moderator
sidney said:
What do we do with Phil Jones if he's shite in midfield and a liability in defenceBench him, and pla him here & there
If he was a striker, he'd be incredible... strikers can be reckless and not get punished when their concentration lapses... but as a defender, he's got be disciplined... he's not.
He needs time, and experience... but he'll get there.
I still think box to box savage suits his natural game, but it's the mental/tactical side he's got to learn... too bad he doesn't have someone like Keane to learn from.
chocolatteballs
Member
Spanish teams buy Spanish and South American players who are technically good , look at Barca's team sheet for eg.
Here we concentrate on mainly northern European players who's qualities are mainly pace and power.
Liam Brady made this point on tv last night and he's right.
There are exceptions like Scholes of old and Wilshire and we badly need to sell the current rabble we have in centre midfield and start again.
sheesh
Member
Commenter said:
Our midfield is poor, but I don’t understand why everyone is saying tonight means we need new signings. The problem was playing Park, Jones and Giggs in midfield when none of them are proper midfielders. Carrick, Ando and Clev would have been a completely difference proposition.Young, Rooney, Hernandez and Park were poor. Rafael good except last goal. Smalling and Evans very good, De Gea CLASS.
We've been saying since the beginning of time that we need midfielders.
De Gea was one of the few positives tonight. He showed that he's progressed a lot. Some of his saves were sublime.
DeadRevel
Member
Christ some of you are unbelievable.
‘Jones is shite’?
He is a CB who is barely 20 and hasn’t had a run of games yet in that position. Fucks sake…
Oh and Ferguson blaming the defence again?
FUCKING HELL. HE is really starting to piss me off
bman
Member
Left midfield: Muniain from Bilbao or James Rodriguez from Porto.
Classy DM: Martinez from Bilbao or Garcia from Benfica, or M'Vila from Rennes.
These aren't even big names like Gotze or Hazard everyone's talking about. They are young, offer qualities we don't have, come from definite selling clubs, and ought to be at maximum as expensive as fucking Ashley Young.
bman
Member
Commenter said:
Christ some of you are unbelievable.‘Jones is shite’?
He is a CB who is barely 20 and hasn’t had a run of games yet in that position. Fucks sake…
Oh and Ferguson blaming the defence again?
FUCKING HELL. HE is really starting to piss me off
I don't think anyone's saying Jones should be fired -- he's very young and has shown lots of potential. But it's just an objective fact that he was a catastrophe in midfield and then in central defence tonight.
Alfonso Bedoya
Moderator
Commenter said:
Our midfield is poor, but I don’t understand why everyone is saying tonight means we need new signings. The problem was playing Park, Jones and Giggs in midfield when none of them are proper midfielders. Carrick, Ando and Clev would have been a completely difference proposition.
Who says?
Carrick I'll give you... but Anderson showed his worth as soon as he came on for "Old Father Time"... and made no impact... at all.
And everyone is getting well carried away about Cleverly... we had a good start to the season, and Cleverly was a part of that... but that doesn't mean he was the reason for it.
I'm still not convinced about Cleverly... I don't think he's rubbish... but I'm not sure he's the successor to Scholes... and that's what we really need... but you don't replace Scholes or Giggs for £10/15 mill.
Everything is relative... if you accept that United is financially second class now, then I guess we should be grateful that we're doing as well as we are...
Alfonso Bedoya
Moderator
Alfonso Bedoya said:
If he was a striker, he’d be incredible… strikers can be reckless and not get punished when their concentration lapses… but as a defender, he’s got to be disciplined… he’s not.
He needs time, and experience… but he’ll get there.
I still think box to box savage suits his natural game, but it’s the mental/tactical side he’s got to learn… too bad he doesn’t have someone like Keane to learn from.
“Badges, to god-damned hell with badges! We have no badges. In fact, we don’t need badges. I don’t have to show you any stinking badges, you god-damned cabrón and ching’ tu madre! Come out from that shit-hole of yours. I have to speak to you.”
sheesh
Member
bman said:
We should get that Bielsa guy to take over from Fergie too. Gets his teams to play united-style football (or at least what is supposed to be our style). Also seems like a likeable eccentric total weirdo. I like that.
He seems to have gone under the radar in club football. I wonder if he'll ever manage in England.
Here's an interesting article from the Guardian:
DeadRevel
Member
Well no. Ando did play well when he came on. Only midfielder prepared to get the ball forward in a otherwise dire performance. And it’s not a coincidence that when we lost Ando and Clev in the middle our intensity was gone. And that’s been the problem ever since, no intensity. Except when we’re losing.
If you are actually suggesting having those 3 I mentioned in CM tonight instead of Giggs, Park and Jones wouldn’t have made a difference you are clueless.
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