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Pikey McScum
Member
Commenter said:
Was there really “emergency support from the brokers behind the deal” or is this a RealTimeUrbanLegend ? Time will tell. It’s too soon to know
Didn't there used to be a regular Ranter in the days of yore called Urban?
BiscuitBarrell
Member
Commenter said<
AND, why would they want to liquidate OT (apart from MUFC, it’s not worth much as a shell, except for “free dates” when it’s rented out for cricket and rugby) ?
OT alone is “worth” more than the overall value as based on that PrivCo share estimate.
Anyone else spot any inconsistency here? To be fair to you Denton they are a whole 2 paragraphs apart.
BiscuitBarrell
Member
Commenter said<
I did.It’s their “club” (their “business” if you want to simplify matters to the most basic economic factor) SO they can do what they want. AND, why would they want to liquidate OT (apart from MUFC, it’s not worth much as a shell, except for “free dates” when it’s rented out for cricket and rugby) ? AND, like I said where would they move – the Olympic stadium in London, with all the SurreyReds close by ? Berlin, with an Olympic stadium, huge wealth and no decent footie team – Der Berliner Rote Teufel ?? AND if they liquidated OT, how much would a “replacement” cost them in London or Berlin ??? No deal there, methinks.
Sorry I didn't realise that was your response. I thought you might come up with something a bit more substantial than
1) OT isn't worth a lot - which you then contradict.
2) Here are 2 major cities with 8.1m and 3.5m populations, with empty stadia and opportunity for tapping a wealthy market
3) It'll cost too much to obtain a new stadium in a big city - Oh BTW West ham are likely to pay £2m per season for the use of the Olympic stadium (about 100k per home game) http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/10/12/2707679/west-ham-will-almost-certainly-rent-olympic-stadium-says Sounds affordable for a team which has a match day income of £3.5m per game.
I'll repeat, you've not made the case against the Glazers being willing or able to move the club. As you say, "they can do what they want".
I'm not saying they will move it, just that they have no interest in M16, the heritage or the fans, just the bottom line. And while fans like you make excuses for their decisions, and tell us how they wouldn't/couldn't possibly do the unthinkable (name the stadium, move the club, leave the premier league, change the badge, change the name, rewrite the history), in 10 years time you'll be making the same excuses for them when they've done the unthinkable. And wondering why everyone's getting so upset.
Alfonso Bedoya
Moderator
Oh my... Will Ferrel, eh?... 90 million dollars???
Goodness me, that's really interesting...
You got any more really cool bits of information that you've picked up in your amazing life?
LOL...
Denton – After three days trading I hardly think anybody can make any determination about what the market thinks one way or another, especially since the trading volume once the HFTs had got out of the market is pitiful. The ‘underwriter support’ isn’t legend – you can see the huge trades quite clearly – but that says nothing about longer term value either. Give it some time, don’t make any judgments either way just yet.
Pikey McScum
Member
Just1n said:
Yeah dont you remember him quitting rant after Dread said that Biggie was better than Tupac.Back when there was fuckall happening on this site.
lol, I don't remember that actually - it's a shame things got so bad then, some real characters have fallen by the wayside
That Pipey06 fella was probably my favourite...
Damian Garside
Member
Sympathy for the Devil: about 60 posts up I suggested that if the Glazers took United elsewhere then they could sell OT.
Denton and Biscuit between them must have argued the toss over this one for a few thousand lines of text across a score of posts. For those who enjoyed this spectacle, you may thank me later. For those who didn’t …. Sorry!
Alfonso Bedoya
Moderator
The Glazers could never move United, and don't give me any shit about, "it's their club, they can do what they like".
It would not be allowed... period!
Fans would not allow it, the City of Manchester would not allow it, even the Premier League and the FA would get involved... it's as daft as saying Real Madrid, or Barcelona could be moved...
Whoever said this is possible is a fool, and seriously needs to eat more fish... a lot more.
BiscuitBarrell
Member
Alfonso Bedoya said:
The Glazers could never move United, and don't give me any shit about, "it's their club, they can do what they like".It would not be allowed... period!
Fans would not allow it, the City of Manchester would not allow it, even the Premier League and the FA would get involved... it's as daft as saying Real Madrid, or Barcelona could be moved...
Whoever said this is possible is a fool, and seriously needs to eat more fish... a lot more.
We've seen how much notice they take of the fans.
What influence have the council got? None.
The premier league don't care where it's played as long as its making money. 39th game?
The FA are as impotent as the council.
I'm not saying it will happen, just don't be surprised if it does. There's nothing legally stopping them, and we've seen how much scruples they've got.
FYI. I had Salmon for tea last night, and I'm seriously contemplating tuna tonight.
Alfonso Bedoya
Moderator
BiscuitBarrell said:
We've seen how much notice they take of the fans.
What influence have the council got? None.
The premier league don't care where it's played as long as its making money. 39th game?
The FA are as impotent as the council.I'm not saying it will happen, just don't be surprised if it does. There's nothing legally stopping them, and we've seen how much scruples they've got.
FYI. I had Salmon for tea last night, and I'm seriously contemplating tuna tonight.
Quit talking nonsense... Manchester United is the crown jewels of the Premier League... as much as the ABU brigade love to hate us... the fact is, Manchester United is responsible for bringing more money into the English game than any other team... by a long way.
You really are sleeping too close to a source of toxic fumes Mate...
BiscuitBarrell
Member
Alfonso Bedoya said:
Quit talking nonsense... Manchester United is the crown jewels of the Premier League... as much as the ABU brigade love to hate us... the fact is, Manchester United is responsible for bringing more money into the English game than any other team... by a long way.You really are sleeping too close to a source of toxic fumes Mate...
You don't think so? That's fine. I remember them saying that the FA would never allow teams to form a separate league. What happened? The teams just went off and made their own league (the premier league), where they divied up the money more to their liking. They also used to think that man couldn't fly, we seem to do that frequently now, too.
Time moves on, perspectives change. The only thing that keeps the league together is that the top 5 are currently making more money that way. If that changes - (individual media rights, European super league etc) - they'll just go off where they want. To make more money. This thought that the others won't allow it - what can they do?
The fumes? Ahh you must be smelling the paint stripper I'm drinking. It's ok though, I've got enough brains to lose a few million neurons and still be correct.
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