Fuckin wellbeck. Dont they trach him how to pass?.?
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Alfonso Bedoya
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uncleknobheadforfucksake said:
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"Badges, to god-damned hell with badges! We have no badges. In fact, we don't need badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges, you god-damned cabrón and ching' tu madre! Come out from that shit-hole of yours. I have to speak to you."Posted 5 months ago # -
sidney
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This squad is like a despots plaything
Fergie has too many players to pick from; old players, young players, squad players - and he parachutes them into the 11 out of the blue and expects them to hit the ground running
It's because Fergie is so powerful. He can rotate as much as he wants and there will be no comeback. And fair play, we have to trust him because he knows best. But criticism has to get back to him regarding these crazy 11s, players out position, shit midfields etc. otherwise nothing will change.
He admitted last season that he got it wrong in Europe. Now we need him to admit he's getting it wrong in the league while there is a title still to fight for.
Posted 5 months ago # -
marlon
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Valencia has been playing with a hip injury. Hopefully that explains his form.
Fergie praised Anderson too. Hopefully he gets a start against West Ham. I'm a bit worried about resting Rio for that game though. Evans has been great, but I think he (and Jones/Smalling) need the experience alongside them still.
Posted 5 months ago # -
Bill
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Another come from behind win everyone will point out! Who cares QPR are shite and we've made hard work of it again. Who knows what formation we are playing these days. TBH we might as well go back to 4-4-1-1 - at least its something the players are familiar with.
Start Carrick and Cleverley, Valencia and Kagawa wide which is a waste but, Nani goes AWOL half the time and Young isn't good enough. Rooney in the hole, RVP up top. Hernandez, Scholes, Nani, Anderson and Welbeck to be impact subs. Powell, Buttner, Fletcher, Giggs and Young to cover in case of injures. No point picking a first choice back 4 with our injury record, Rafael and Evra on flanks, whichever 2 of Evans, Vidic, Jones, Ferdinand and Smalling is fit in the middle.
De Gea and Lindegaard is a coin toss but I'd prob go with De Gea because whoever is in sticks is going to be busy and De Gea is the better shot stopper.
Posted 5 months ago # -
Will
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Posted by unregistered user: WillIf we could only see Fletcher return to his previous best, although I fear this is unlikely, he could partner Kagawa in the middle (or indeed Anderson). Think we will make hard work of it against West Ham though. We’re vulnerable on the counter attack at the moment since Fergie seems to hell bent on goal difference. There seem to be so many solutions, all of them wrong. Still we’re top of the league!
Posted 5 months ago # -
Ichiro
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Van Persie may be getting a lot of plaudits for his start to the season, but Hernandez is clearly the in-form striker at the moment. I hope he doesnt get stuck with this supersub role. He and Anderson deserve a start in the league.
Nick Powell should get some more games too, he already looks comfortable which is amazing considering where he was playing last season.
Posted 5 months ago # -
Anantax
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Ichiro said:
Van Persie may be getting a lot of plaudits for his start to the season, but Hernandez is clearly the in-form striker at the moment. I hope he doesnt get stuck with this supersub role. He and Anderson deserve a start in the league.Nick Powell should get some more games too, he already looks comfortable which is amazing considering where he was playing last season.
Dont get me wrong, I love and root for Hrnandz. But last time he started (Norwich) he was a non factor.
Agree on Powell.hes looking good.
Posted 5 months ago # -
uncleknobheadffs
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nani should be undroppable when hes fit
the argument for playing carrick is becoming redundant except when we're using 433, the defence doesnt look any more protected when hes in the team to when hes not, and what does he offer apart from that
cleverley and andershite cm, nani kagawa wide, wayne off persie
and id start giving smalling and jones games together at centre half
Posted 5 months ago # -
marlon
Member uncleknobheadforfucksake said:
the argument for playing carrick is becoming redundantnot true
From CL+PL:
Player---Games---Concede 1st---Total Conceded---Scored---GD/Game
Carrick-----11----------7-------------------13---------------22--------0.82--
Cleverley----9----------6--------------------11---------------14-------0.33--
Scholes-----7----------6--------------------10----------------14-------0.57--
Anderson---4-----------4--------------------5-----------------8--------0.75--
Fletcher-----4----------4--------------------5-----------------3-------(-0.5)--
Giggs-------3----------2--------------------2----------------3--------0.33--
Kagawa-----2----------1--------------------2----------------4---------1--Carrick our best CM, followed by Anderson. Cleverley suffers a bit having played when Carrick was at CB.
DDG
Raf Rio Vida Evra
Carrick Anderson
Nani Rooney Kagawa
van PersieNani and Kagawa make the front 4 much more flexible. All three goals yesterday were scored after Rooney had moved to the left.
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Marlon – I like Carrick, but your ‘data’ certainly doesn’t prove that Carrick is “our best CM, followed by Anderson”. It doesn’t prove anything bar there’s a weak correlation between a players appearances and GD/Game. And as any statistician will remind you correlation does not equal causality.
Posted 5 months ago # -
Bill
Member Can't believe some people would drop Valencia if we are playing two wingers. Ok he's not been in the best of form this season but Fergie is arsing around with the formation every five minutes and the list of players who are actually playing well can be counted on one hand, probably minus the thumbs! He's been class since he joined, and that class my friends is permanent!
Posted 5 months ago # -
Anantax
Member Bill said:
Can't believe some people would drop Valencia if we are playing two wingers. Ok he's not been in the best of form this season but Fergie is arsing around with the formation every five minutes and the list of players who are actually playing well can be counted on one hand, probably minus the thumbs! He's been class since he joined, and that class my friends is permanent!Agree on this and also dont understand the Nani lovers. Val has been in bad form over past 3-4 games. BuT Nani has been in bad form over the past 30-40 games.
Would love nothing more than Nani proving me wrong, but unfortunately I just dont see it happening anytime...
Posted 5 months ago # -
Bill
Member Its clear to me that Nani's contract situation is a factor in his performances. In his early days he flattered to deceive and was a target for some criticism from the fans. Nani for City etc...then he settled down and put in some quality performances. However now we are back to the original Nani. He is like Ronaldo without the mental toughness. Nani is the type that would down tools if he wasn't getting his own way. I would have him on the bench as an impact sub but if we sold him it might be best for all parties.
Posted 5 months ago # -
marlon
Member Ed said:
Marlon – I like Carrick, but your ‘data’ certainly doesn’t prove that Carrick is “our best CM, followed by Anderson”. It doesn’t prove anything bar there’s a weak correlation between a players appearances and GD/Game. And as any statistician will remind you correlation does not equal causality.Best was the wrong word. Effective might be better. Obviously there are lots of other factors. Still, passes/tackles/interceptions etc. just tell you the style of play which is influenced as much by the manager and league than the players. A shots on target ratio might be better but goals was much easier to do.
Posted 5 months ago # -
uncleknobheadffs
Member surely the shite we're watching from young and valencia is putting nanis supposed shiteness into perspective
even at his worst he doesnt hide like these two fraud, hes still able to beat his man
and wed replace him with another midtable shitehouse whos contract happens to be running out yet we still manage to embarrassingly overpay for, baines or mclean or someone from wigan
Posted 5 months ago # -
sheesh
Member
At this rate we need a couple of new wingers, not just one. Get rid of Young, Nani is already on his way out.
I'm not a fan of Valencia because he is an old fashioned one dimensional 'push and run' player and often fails to release the ball early messing up many of our attacks but, if it's a question of who turns up more often out of him and Nani, Valencia is the winner. Problem is, he is massively out of form and looks really shit. Nani's stock will go up because he's not playing. Absence makes the heart grow finger and all that jazz.
I really think we could be doing much better than these players though. Chelsea have better wingers than us.
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