United Rant

1. Calvino
   Member

   Knobby has it spot on. No matter how out of form Nani is he will NEVER hide. He will demand for the ball, he will beat the first man. Valencia when out of form is disgusting to watch. Young is simply no use.

   Unlike Young and even Forlan who found the club too big for them, Nani does not feel United is too big for him. He is absolutely comfortable at this club and that is the first trick. As capable as Valencia seems, in the big Champions League games he seems so subdued. Lately, his crossing has been simply horrifying to watch. @Sheesh, this is not about absence, I have always rated Nani highly and I will start him in every game that he is fit for. Every. Game.

   Dear Sir Alex Ferguson, the 4-4-2 formation with two strikers and two central midfielders is DEAD. Please stop playing this. Thank you very much sir. Regards,
   A Loyal Fan.

   Posted 5 months ago #

2. sheesh
   Member

   Calvino said:
   @Sheesh, this is not about absence, I have always rated Nani highly and I will start him in every game that he is fit for. Every. Game.

   Cal, I fully accept that, compared to Young and Valencia, Nani is the only winger who is capable of creating something out of nothing and I agree with you that he never hides. My issue is his basic decision-making and overall lack of consistency.

   I'm not surprised the manager prefers Valencia.

   Having been spoiled with someone exciting like Ronaldo, I'd much rather United had exciting wingers that can do something different than boring 'push and run' merchants we're currently relying on...but look at our personnel.

   Nani can be unplayable on his best days but those days are not often enough. With Valencia, you can normally expect him to put the ball in the right areas a few times in a game even if he can also be guilty of faffing in possession much of the time. With Nani, he's actually a liability if it's not happening for him. He plays for himself. How many times do you see him having a pop at goal instead of giving the ball to a team-mate who is in a better position?

   Posted 5 months ago #

3. Alfonso Bedoya
   Moderator

   uncleknobheadforfucksake said:
   surely the shite we're watching from young and valencia is putting nanis supposed shiteness into perspective

   even at his worst he doesnt hide like these two fraud, hes still able to beat his man

   and wed replace him with another midtable shitehouse whos contract happens to be running out yet we still manage to embarrassingly overpay for, baines or mclean or someone from wigan

   It's not Youngs fault that he's not good enough... or Valencias fault that he's not as good as Nani... I'm not even sure it's Nanis fault that he can't play to his potential...

   It's Ferguson and the Glazers fault for trying to con the fans into believing that 3 or 4 world calss players, and a squad of mediocrity playing hit and miss football is good enough.

   Now that Ferguson has his own monument, he'll probably reckon he's good for another 4/5 years... and that will do the Glazers just fine.

   "Badges, to god-damned hell with badges! We have no badges. In fact, we don't need badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges, you god-damned cabrón and ching' tu madre! Come out from that shit-hole of yours. I have to speak to you."

   Posted 5 months ago #

4. uncleknobheadffs
   Member

   the glazers arent to blame for young an valencia not being good enoughto beat their man and not having the bottle to even attempt to

   taggarts to blame for wasting cash on em though, and you can throw berbatov hargreaves etc in there an all, and nani and andershite if es never gonna play em

   LKHM
   
   hoofing

   Posted 5 months ago #

5. sidney
   Member

   The Glazers are to blame if they've not made more funds available for better players

   Young is a Fergie type player though, we'll always have one; someone who Fergie can programme, who'll graft, who'll track back like a properbloodywinger. It could have been Milner, it might be McClean.

   Posted 5 months ago #

6. squigs
   Member

   Young isn't a Fergie type winger. He is an inferior winger who doesn't track back anyway. He is not the present nor is he the future.

   Nani is of little more use, people say Nani is top class on his day but neglect to mention he has had about 3 good games in 2 years and instead of pushing on he has regressed. He struggles to influence the bigger games and Fergie has long known this.

   Posted 5 months ago #

7. marlon
   Member

   It weird having three wingers who have all peaked. There is nothing to look forward to. I'd like a new signing, even if it means letting Nani go, just because we've seen what he can do - he's an amazing player half the time, which isn't very impressive any more. It's the one position where the club doesn't have a good prospect for the future.

   Posted 5 months ago #

8. Anantax
   Member

   squigs said:

   Nani is of little more use, people say Nani is top class on his day but neglect to mention he has had about 3 good games in 2 years and instead of pushing on he has regressed. He struggles to influence the bigger games and Fergie has long known this.

   sheesh said:

   Nani can be unplayable on his best days but those days are not often enough. With Valencia, you can normally expect him to put the ball in the right areas a few times in a game even if he can also be guilty of faffing in possession much of the time. With Nani, he's actually a liability if it's not happening for him. He plays for himself. How many times do you see him having a pop at goal instead of giving the ball to a team-mate who is in a better position?

   Think these two quotes says it all bout Nani. Bags of talent, but lacking a quality end product.

   Posted 5 months ago #

9. bman
   Member

   If he sustains his recent level of performance for a couple of season, RVP will be out first really successful signing in years, probably since we signed Evra and Vida. Obviously some of the young lads might really work out, but Berba, Hargo, Nani, Ando, Young,Tevez -- there's a really long list of players we paid decent scratch for who didn't ultimately improve our first 11 in an appreciable or sustained way. Carrick and Valencia are relatively successful, but they're more like consistent 7/10 players, which is fine, every squad needs them. But for the amount of players we've signed in the past 5-6 seasons, we've seen very few who've established themselves as regular high quality contributors in our first 11. The spine of our team has been people brought in ages ago -- Scholes, Giggs, Rooney, Rio, Evra, and Vida. Out of that bunch, only Rooney is definitely not past it, but I don't see anyone forcefully laying claim to Scholes, Giggs, Rio, Evra, and Vida's places.

   Posted 5 months ago #

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