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UNITED CONFIRM KAGAWA
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Pikey McScum
Member
Fingers crossed he picks up English quicker than Tevez, Anderson or Valencia ever did
"Sometimes you look in a field and you see a cow and you think it's a better cow than the one you've got in your own field. It's a fact. Right? And it never really works out that way."Posted 11 months ago # -
good news!
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Alfonso Bedoya
Moderator
We'll see.
If he's all we get, he won't be make much difference.
And I'm not holding my breath for the signing that WILL make the difference.
"Badges, to god-damned hell with badges! We have no badges. In fact, we don't need badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges, you god-damned cabrón and ching' tu madre! Come out from that shit-hole of yours. I have to speak to you."Posted 11 months ago # -
brianofnazareth
Member
Alfonso Bedoya said:
We'll see.If he's all we get, he won't be make much difference.
And I'm not holding my breath for the signing that WILL make the difference.
I'm sure you haven't always been this depressing!!
Lighten up, Kagawa looks like the creative spark we've needed!!
Posted 11 months ago # -
i have no f-in idea whether he can play or not but it has to be an improvement on what we have now. only concern is that he is too much like park - a bit of a little fucker who falls around a lot. this is fine when you have pace but without it you are basically shit.
Posted 11 months ago # -
bman
Member
He's really not very like Park in footballing terms, he's more like Ozil. He looks an excellent signing to me. I've watched a few Dortmund games over the past year or two because they play really entertaining high quality football, and he's one of their best players. Doesn't mean he'll be a success for us of course (see Berba), but he's definitely a type of player we don't currently have.
Posted 11 months ago # -
you can be a little fucker like messi, fabregas, scholes, nedved but be athletic and hard as nails or you can be a little fucker and just fall around a lot, that's what park is now because he has lost his zip, pace and sharpness due to age. same applies to the twins.
just watch out for our medics too. I'm sure they will do their best to fuck him up.
Posted 11 months ago # -
sidney
Member
uncleknobheadforfucksake said:
never seen him playis he the new park, I'm thinking yes as far as taggarts concerned
Fergie really can't use and abuse him. He needs to play where he's most deadly.
He will inevitably be labelled 'the next Park' but he's a much better player. He's a lock picker type who makes things happen - often with just one touch. We'll score some class goals on the counter with him, Nani, Rooney, Valencia etc. Hopefully we'll see less hoofs into the box now n all.
Posted 11 months ago # -
Alfonso Bedoya
Moderator brianofnazareth said:
I'm sure you haven't always been this depressing!!Lighten up, Kagawa looks like the creative spark we've needed!!
It's good that we've bought some creative talent... we need it... but it looks to me like we just signed a number 10...
We need midfielders... especially a skillful battler... this little bugger will be a very good signing if we also get one of those... otherwise he's just another option for Ferguson to fuck about with, as he tries to make a complete midfield, out of spare parts...
Posted 11 months ago # -
Just1n
Member
Alfonso Bedoya said:
It's good that we've bought some creative talent... we need it... but it looks to me like we just signed a number 10...We need midfielders... especially a skillful battler... this little bugger will be a very good signing if we also get one of those... otherwise he's just another option for Ferguson to fuck about with, as he tries to make a complete midfield, out of spare parts...
agree we need midfielders so i'm hoping this is not the only signing other than youth.
That said Kagawa should be good for us, providing some creativity from the centre cos our wingplay has become really repetitive this season.
tbfPosted 11 months ago # -
Alfonso Bedoya
Moderator sidney said:
Fergie really can't use and abuse him. He needs to play where he's most deadly.He will inevitably be labelled 'the next Park' but he's a much better player. He's a lock picker type who makes things happen - often with just one touch. We'll score some class goals on the counter with him, Nani, Rooney, Valencia etc. Hopefully we'll see less hoofs into the box now n all.
The whole team, (except defence) is a mess in my opinion... a collection of misfits, that works wonders, when the stars are in alignment, but more often than not, struggle to be a proper team.
Rooney... an excellent number 10... without a good enough number 9 to work with.
Nani... a very talented, but ultimately frustrating twat.
Valencia... a very good, traditional right winger... nothing fancy, just get down the line and fire in decent crosses... except we don't have the proper centre forward, to get on the end of them...
No proper left winger, at all... but then again, if we did have one, he'd be in the same boat as Valencia...
Young... what the fuck is Young... really???
And a centre midfield made up of any combination of odds 'n sodds... picked from, two old fogies... one holding player that doesn't like to get his shorts dirty... a Korean who can't keep his shorts clean... a fat Brazilian, who's past it at 23... a Scotsman with a chronic case of the shits... and a David Beckham wanna-be.
There's no future for this team, until Ferguson sorts out the basic positions... it's great having lots of options, but you can't build a cohesive team out of a collection of utility players...
Posted 11 months ago # -
Bill
Member
Nani has the better skills but is undisciplined and less likely to stick to a game plan. Young and Valencia have 7-8/10 skill sets but also will track back & be relied on to stick to a playing philosophy. Rafael & Evra are two attacking wing backs so should provide balance. Look for United to play a short passing game in the middle of the park and a more direct game on the flanks next season.
Posted 11 months ago # -
Alfonso Bedoya
Moderator Bill said:
A little harsh I feel!De Gea
Rafael
Evra
Ferdinand
Vidic
Young
Scholes
Carrick
Valencia
Kagawa
RooneySubs:
Lindegaard
Jones
Smalling
Giggs
Nani
Welbeck
HernandezNot terrible I would say! And capable of playing as a team too, some strong characters in that side.
"Not terrible I would say!"
Yeah... those are the words that I love to hear about a United side...
ffs...
All you did was list the squad... and that's supposed to make them... "a team"???
Who's the midfield fighter in that squad?... who's the left winger?... and don't just pick the players that can, "do a job there"... that's my point... Ferguson can't afford, or won't spend, to get the players that this team desperately needs... so bodges together 11 players to suit the opposition... sometimes, it rips them apart... and other times, it can't even cope with relegation fodder.
The team of 99, picked itself, week after week... the only time Ferguson made changes was to deal with injuries, suspensions, or give a player some rest.
A solid defence... two good strikers, who worked in tandem... an excellent left footed, left winger... an excellent right footed, right winger... a skilful, ball winning, midfield titan... and a pass master, play maker...
Now that was a team... and they knew how to play as a team.
Posted 11 months ago # -
squigs
Member
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18330894
Good Piece from Raphael Honegstein.
Posted 11 months ago # -
sidney
Member squigs said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18330894Good Piece from Raphael Honegstein.
"His incredible work-rate and defensive discipline would make it possible for him to play on the left in a 4-4-2"
Oh no
Posted 11 months ago # -
baggio365
Member
hopefully we return to the fluid front 4 from 08/09, with rooney + 3 from young/nani/kawaga/valencia/welbeck. Hernandez to come off the bench if we need a poacher up top.
of course that would only work if we went out and bought a central midfielder who actually knows how to tackle
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