Unrealistic summer transfer wankfest

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Started 2 years ago by bman
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Alfonso Bedoya
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Cal... my "first instinct is to punch holes in whatever you post."... that is simply not true... in fact... what you don't seem to understand is that I agree with you on most things... and have always valued your opinion... even when I don't agree with you, at least I know that your opinion is based on an informed and intelligent perspective, unlike some who just talk shite

The problem is, on the few things we DON'T agree on, we both fight tooth and nail to defend our positions... which is fair enough... but sometimes it goes too far... and for my part in that, and I know that I'm one of the worst for getting unneccessarily vicious... I truly apologise... you are one of the few Ranters who's posts I always read...

Anyway... this is one of those things that we obviously don't agree on... Downing is at the right club for his ability... he is not a patch on Nani, and that is the level of player that a club of our supposed ambitions should be after... we are supposed to have a world class scouting network... we are supposed to be one of the worlds biggest clubs... we are supposed to have all this cash sitting in the bank... why then can we not find, attract and sign a "Nani" for the left? Why can't we get a "Sneijder", a "Schweinsteiger", an "Essien", etc for our midfield...? These are among the best players in their positions... players that the best clubs in the world are fighting for... why aren't we? and why are you so willing to settle for less?

"Badges, to god-damned hell with badges! We have no badges. In fact, we don't need badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges, you god-damned cabrón and ching' tu madre! Come out from that shit-hole of yours. I have to speak to you."

Posted 2 years ago #
Calvino
Member

We are settled on our "Essien" - Jack Rodwell. No need to look anywhere else. pay Everton whatever they want; offer them Carrick and Gibson and 10m for the lad. We do not need a Sneijder - we have Rooney. Downing is good enough. He is Lee Sharpe. Really is. Just Valencia is Kanchelskis.

I apologise too.

Dear Sir Alex Ferguson, the 4-4-2 formation with two strikers and two central midfielders is DEAD. Please stop playing this. Thank you very much sir. Regards,
A Loyal Fan.

Posted 2 years ago #
Ben Hulston
Member

I'm really doubtful about Downing's ability to compete in Europe. I think the level of movement, positioning and general craft required would probably be beyond him. However, for use against 75% of the Premiership, where the quality of fullback is patchy to say the least he could definitely do a job.

However, I side with Alf RE Downing - not sure he is really the quality we need overall.

Rodwell / Lass + Keeper - yes. Alexis Sanchez or Keisuke Honda would be sensational but probably not the players we need. Still, I'd love them at United !

Posted 2 years ago #
sheesh
Member

I apologise too.

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Posted 2 years ago #
sidney
Member

Downing is barely an international

Same with Young

Like Knobby always points out, we need top draw x factoryness on the flanks, like Nani, Giggs in his day, Ronnie etc.

Valencia can beat people and puts balls in, but he's not a flair player and he's never going to score enough goals. But he's still better than Downing & Young, who both have attitude problems n all and would cost a fucking bomb and would inflate the wage bill (which is as important to the club as the transfer fee itself)

Let that be the end of it

Posted 2 years ago #
sheesh
Member

Valencia is limited in terms of technical skill but the number of assists he is attributed with is phenomenal.

Posted 2 years ago #
Anonymous
Unregistered

I know that Goal.com isn't the best source of football knowledge, but Pastore has been listed in the worst team of the week for serie A 8 times so far this season, more than any other player.. He shows glimpses of being a class player, but has a way to go before being consistent, and with those video reels, those things can make any player look amazing!

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Posted 2 years ago #
sidney
Member

sheesh said:
Valencia is limited in terms of technical skill but the number of assists he is attributed with is phenomenal.

Aye

Valencia has the pace which Downing does not, and the phenomenally consistent delivery that Young does not

He's better than them both

Posted 2 years ago #
bman
Member

Pastore is definitely the right answer to our creative midfield problem. Not only does he have talent to burn, I've been really impressed with his winner's attitude in the matches I've seen. Talent + heart is what we want.

Rodwell for some reason I just haven't seen much of, but on the basis of reputation he sounds like he could be the defensive midfielder we are looking for, since he's described as Rio-esque. We don't just want a destroyer like Mascherano (although it might be nice to have someone like that on the bench for tough tough away matches), we want someone who can play the ball.

Sanchez also looks really ace whenever I've seen him. At the WC I was worried he was all tricks and no delivery, but he looks to have really come on this season. He looks a lot like Ronaldo, only I think he's pretty heavily right-footed, and that would require us to put Nani on the left.

Douglas Costa and whatshisname Menez might be good options for a left-sided player.

Gotze and Defour also seem like great young prospects for central midfield, Gotze might be my second favourite choice for creative/attacking midfielder after Pastore. Defour's big worry is his injury record.

Most of these players would come with a hefty price tag, so based on the past few seasons, we're not likely to get any of them. But as others have pointed out, there's no reason why a club as big as ours shouldn't be in for these players, after all they're all very young. I know I'm engaged in an unrealistic transfer wankfest, but the day-to-day reality of the current United squad is so fucking dreary, even when we win, that I need the escapism.

Posted 2 years ago #
bman
Member

jasonwauchope said:
I know that Goal.com isn't the best source of football knowledge, but Pastore has been listed in the worst team of the week for serie A 8 times so far this season, more than any other player.. He shows glimpses of being a class player, but has a way to go before being consistent, and with those video reels, those things can make any player look amazing!

Get the Flash Video

Worthless stat, since he's the best thing in that Palermo team. He's got more X-Factor than any player I've seen since Ronaldo and Messi several years back. He stands a good chance of being a Kaka-quality midfielder.

Posted 2 years ago #
bman
Member

Calvino said:
Bman,
please do not get me wrong. I am not casting aspersions on your assessment of these players. I am just asking if really these are the players we need given our current state. My take is that we need proper ball winners FIRST and Foremost in that team. We have enough invention upfront to make things happen. The problem is that there is no fight nor tenacity in our midfield.

Fair enough. Although if you are looking for tenacious midfield players from PL teams, Newcastle's Tiote seems like the best bet I've seen. I think they just slapped a new contract on him though already.

Posted 2 years ago #
sheesh
Member

bman said:

Most of these players would come with a hefty price tag, so based on the past few seasons, we're not likely to get any of them. But as others have pointed out, there's no reason why a club as big as ours shouldn't be in for these players, after all they're all very young. I know I'm engaged in an unrealistic transfer wankfest, but the day-to-day reality of the current United squad is so fucking dreary, even when we win, that I need the escapism.

We can all dream until the hard reality sets in (i.e - when the 2011-12 season starts or when Fergie says there's "no value")

Posted 2 years ago #
uncleknobheadffs
Member

fergie wont sign any 'creative midfielder' unless he can play in a cm two in the prem, can this argie cunt do that

LKHM

hoofing

Posted 2 years ago #
sukhy5
Moderator

Alfonso Bedoya said:
Cal... my "first instinct is to punch holes in whatever you post."... that is simply not true... in fact... what you don't seem to understand is that I agree with you on most things... and have always valued your opinion... even when I don't agree with you, at least I know that your opinion is based on an informed and intelligent perspective, unlike some who just talk shite

The problem is, on the few things we DON'T agree on, we both fight tooth and nail to defend our positions... which is fair enough... but sometimes it goes too far... and for my part in that, and I know that I'm one of the worst for getting unneccessarily vicious... I truly apologise... you are one of the few Ranters who's posts I always read...

Anyway... this is one of those things that we obviously don't agree on... Downing is at the right club for his ability... he is not a patch on Nani, and that is the level of player that a club of our supposed ambitions should be after... we are supposed to have a world class scouting network... we are supposed to be one of the worlds biggest clubs... we are supposed to have all this cash sitting in the bank... why then can we not find, attract and sign a "Nani" for the left? Why can't we get a "Sneijder", a "Schweinsteiger", an "Essien", etc for our midfield...? These are among the best players in their positions... players that the best clubs in the world are fighting for... why aren't we? and why are you so willing to settle for less?

Classy post lad.

We are the biggest club in the world. We are Manchester United.

Posted 2 years ago #
captainhormone
Moderator

tbf i'm that fucking angry with the clubs transfer policy i fear masturbating might make me haemorrhage, as i'me even typing this with a clenched fist

We need a cunt with some bollocks, in fact we need 5 cunts weith bollocks..no homeless arsxeholes or fucking lorient rejects. just cunts with bollocks that aint dicks

LKHM

Hoofing

Posted 2 years ago #
sidney
Member

Gibson: "I have no plans to leave Manchester United"

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_6805651,00.html

But there have been no talks yet. He hopes they will sit down in summer. I hope they do too, and they tell Gibson thanks, but fuck off.

Posted 2 years ago #
triggs
Member

sidney said:
Gibson thanks, but fuck off.

Where can I get this t-shirt?

Posted 2 years ago #
sidney
Member

I'll knock you one up for a fiver

Seriously though, I can't believe the cunt said he's HAPPY with his recent form... Happy FFS and therefore deserves another contract FFS

He's deluded and has no idea about standards

Posted 2 years ago #
triggs
Member

My squad revamp guesses:

VDS >>> De Gea - £15M
Kuszczak (£4M)>>>Lindegaard - £undisclosed

G Nev>>>De Laet

Obertan (£3M)>>> Alexis Sanchez/Douglas Costa - £25/£18M
Hargreaves >>> Steven Defour - £15M
Gibson (£4M)>>> Cleverley

Owen and Diouf (£4M)>>> Welbeck and Macheda

Posted 2 years ago #
uncleknobheadffs
Member

in all serious id say we'll get a winger and a keeper and leave it at that, ashley young and one of the germans, one of ems a big utd fan right, that one then

Posted 2 years ago #
sheesh
Member

Hargreaves has gone to Germany for a week's rehabilitation:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8375544/Owen-Hargreaves-makes-last-ditch-attempt-to-rescue-Manchester-United-career.html

He may as well stay there and help find us a replacement.

Posted 2 years ago #
bman
Member

Poor bastard, I hope he has decent money saved away to live on. Although he seems like he's much cleverer than the average footballer, I think he'd be a really good football analyst.

Posted 2 years ago #
Alfonso Bedoya
Moderator

"Ashley Young is reportedly keen to seal a summer switch to Manchester United - and he could cost just £10million."

http://www.teamtalk.com/aston-villa/6807704/Villa-star-eager-to-join-United-

Posted 2 years ago #
Bill
Member

Young is one of the better attacking players in the Premier league, if he's available for 10 mill I think he would be worth getting. He has plenty of experience in English football and not that much of a risky signing, whether he can take his game to the next level remains to be seen - if he finishes like he did for Eng vs Den he might well do. Him Rodwell and MS are favourites to be the new faces at OT in the summer.

Posted 2 years ago #
Ichiro
Member

Wouldnt grumble if we got Young. Im not so sure about Rodwell, seems a bit passive and only passes sideways. If we buy a midfielder I hope its someone who can take free-kicks and corners anyway because were rubbish at set pieces.

Posted 2 years ago #
ltel
Member

we need experience in the middle too, buying young is only good when you have a top side and they can be integrated over a period of time.

Posted 2 years ago #
Bill
Member

I see Rodwell as competition for Carrick. Having seen Gibson's comments recently SAF really needs to make an example of him and lay down the law. Playing for this club is not a right its a privilege.

Honestly if Scholes stays on and Gibson does too, that is a sign we will not be buying another midfielder anytime soon - there just won't be enough room. Gibson is the 5th CM and hardly plays. Cleverley to come back too.

Posted 2 years ago #
bman
Member

I don't think Anderson's position is at all secure. Wouldn't surprise me too much to see him sold off but not Gibson. Fergie might see Gibson as Carrick's successor, since he has that same slackjawed immobility.

Posted 2 years ago #
triggs
Member

Seems that the papers are pretty sure that a deal is on the brink of being agreed for Rodwell. They reckon we made an offer in Jan, but we were asked to wait till the summer.

Posted 2 years ago #
Bill
Member

Rodwell, Young and Stekelenburg for 45 mill all things considered would do me.
Diouf, The Pig, Gibson and Macheda out for about 20 mill total leaves a 25 mill net spend, which is as good as its going to get at the moment.

Bebe & Obertan to go out on loan with subject to selling them next summer if possible. Cleverley & Welbeck back from loan. Hargreaves and Owen released.

That's as good as we can expect and its not all bad. 2 decent English players will keep the balance of the dressing room and Stekelenburg is as close to VDS as you are going to get.

Posted 2 years ago #