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Injuries hit ahead of Basel visit

September 27, 2011 Tags: , Matches 222 comments

Sir Alex Ferguson will be without seven key players for tonight’s visit of FC Basel in the Champions League, as Manchester United attempt to record a first victory in this season’s competition. Ferguson confirmed that strikers Wayne Rooney and Javier Hernández will miss the tie, while Jonny Evans, Chris Smalling, Nemanja Vidić , Tom Cleverley and Rafael da Silva are also absent for last year’s finalists.

Fresh injury concerns this week add to a growing list of absentees at Old Trafford, although Ferguson was always likely to rotate his side against one of the competitions lesser lights. Indeed, with United – on paper at least – drawn in a relatively weak group, Ferguson may use early matches to ensure fringe squad players achieve some playing time.

To that end Dimitar Berbatov, Michael Owen, Anders Lindegaard and Park Ji-Sung could play, while Fábio da Silva is likely to come into the side at right-back. And although Ferguson insists that Basel will pose a threat, United supports will expect a much-changed side once again, with Ryan Giggs partnering Michael Carrick in an open midfield, and Phil Jones reprising his weekend role at the heart of United’s central defence.

“Having a squad gives them a better chance of winning things, so they’ve accepted (the squad system) a long time ago,” Ferguson said on Monday.

“And they want to do well when they get the opportunity because as a group we all want to do well. They all have a part to play in the context of the number of games you have in the Premier League, Champions League, League Cup, FA Cup, it’s an exhausting season unless you use your squad. We have been consistent in the Champions League, our form away from home has been outstanding and we hope we can do better this year and win it, that’s the aim of this club all the time.”

“They’ve always been among the premier teams from Switzerland [which] has been producing very good young players for quite a few years now. Basel too have very good experience in Europe, so I expect to see that from them tomorrow.”

In Basel United faces an attractive side, unlike – some might argue – the Swiss national side at last summer’s World Cup in South Africa. Yet the odds seem stacked against the Swiss, with United having won 32 and drawn just three in an unbeaten streak at Old Trafford that dates back to Chelsea’s controversial win in April 2010.

Yet in Alexander Frei, Basel boasts a striker whose record at both club and international level is impressive. The locally-born forward has scored 48 times in 64 games since returning from Borussia Dortmund in 2009, while he has a one-in-two record over 84 international caps for Switzerland.

“We’re coming here as outsiders,” Frei is told Uefa.com.

“We’re not expecting to make the impossible possible, but why shouldn’t we achieve something? We’re going to be fully committed and give 100 per cent for the whole 90 minutes and we’ll see what happens.

“When I left Borussia Dortmund for Basel, I was hoping to experience Champions League fever again, and I’ve been able to do so twice in two seasons. I’d love to play on at this level for another three or four years to hopefully play at other big European grounds too like Barcelona’s and [Real] Madrid’s.”

Meanwhile, German coach Thorsten Fink insists his side arrives at Old Trafford with a positive mindset, despite being classed as rank-outsiders. Basel earned a 1-1 draw on the last occasion these sides met in 2002. However, Fink is missing key playmaker, and outstanding young prospect,  Xherdan Shaqiri through suspension

Fink was a member of the Bayern Munich that United famously beat 2-1 at Camp Nou in the 1999 Champions League final. But the coach, who replaced former Tottenham Hotspur coach Christian Gross as Basel’s manager in 2009, inists the game is about points, not revenue for ’99.

“We haven’t come here to sit and watch, we’re here to play,” claimed Fink.

“It’s going to be a challenge but we’re looking to get something out the game. To do that we’ll need to be tight at the back as United are clearly very strong in attack. They’re one of the favourites for the competition alongside Barcelona, but we’ve got experience, good young players and we won’t play with any fear. We’ll see what happens.

“There is no question of me trying to get even for [the 1999 UEFA Champions League final defeat with FC Bayern München]. I’m here as a coach, I’m glad to be here and so are the players. I have great memories of that game even though we lost, as I always think that everything that hurts you makes you stronger.

“We went on to win the Champions League in 2001 so that 1999 defeat definitely made Bayern stronger. We played well that day [in 1999] but it proved that if you let your guard down for a moment against a team like United you get punished.”

And even if that United team contains a host of changes from the exciting side that won its first five Premier League games in a row, the smart money still lies on a comfortable win for the Reds tonight.

Match Facts
Manchester United v FC Basel, Champions League, Old Trafford, 7.45pm, 27  September 2011.

Likely Line-ups
United (4-4-2): Lindegaard; Fabio, Jones, Ferdinand, Evra; Valencia, Carrick, Giggs, Park; Welbeck, Berbatov. Subs from: de Gea, Amos, Fletcher, Fryers, Pogba, Nani, Anderson, Diouf, Young, Owen.

Basel (4-4-2): Sommer; Steinhöfer, Dragovic, Abraham, Park; F Frei, Cabral, Xhaka, Zoua; A Frei, Streller. Subs from: Ajeti, Schürpf, Huggel, Streller, Yapi, Chipperfield, Stocker, Voser, Xhaka, Herzog, Kusunga, Colomba. Buess, Andrist, Kovac, Tembo, Wieser, Kwang-Ryong.

Form
United: WDWWD
Basel: WWWWD

222 comments

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

4-0 berbs first goal…

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

451 jnes and rio at centreback. midfield of young giggs ando carrick valencia, wellbeck up on his own.

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

De Gea; Fabio, Jones, Ferdinand, Evra; Carrick, Anderson, Valencia, Giggs, Young; Welbeck.

Subs: Lindegaard, Park, Nani, Fletcher, Owen, Berbatov, Diouf

RobDiablo - September 27, 2011 Reply

I like it. Instead of putting out a side that “ought” to be good enough to win, as Sir Alex so often does, this lineup should give United exactly what it needs: victory and enough of a goal differential to be first or second in the group at the end of the day.

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

wtf
no berba up front? he did have a mare on saturday so i suppose it isn’t that shocking
how many mirrors did he shatter during the summer ffs?
welbeck is going to be too lite up front on his own
we need to win our home games nice and early so the pressure is off in nov and december

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

young or giggs can go up top anytime they want.i actually hope its anderson who is pushed forward

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

ltel said:
young or giggs can go up top anytime they want.i actually hope its anderson who is pushed forward

yes i agree but i just would prefer a partner for young welbeck – he is still too green to lead on his own

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

berba needs to have a word with SAF if he doesnt get on at all tonite

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

yea that will go well…

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

are basel a decent side? anyone know?

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

they are ok.. better than championship i would say. they have experience at this level

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

Welbeck up on his own… He’s not a ball holder upper

Stick Jones up there, he’d do alright as a centre forward

RobDiablo - September 27, 2011 Reply

ltel said:
yea that will go well…

Yeah, the next thing Berbatov knows, he’ll be playing for Basel.

Alfonso Bedoya - September 27, 2011 Reply

That’s fuckin ridiculous… like him or not, Berbatov deserves better than this…

Ferguson is being a right cunt.

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

RobDiablo said:
Yeah, the next thing Berbatov knows, he’ll be playing for Basel.

well lets face it – he is further down the pecking order than doofus at the moment
and yet he hasn’t slagged anyone/the club off wanting a move unlike that judas over at city who is also 4th/5th choice striker
football – fucking hell
i hope he gets an opportunity to get on tonite and score

Mongoletsi - September 27, 2011 Reply

That’s jumpy as fuck for me :o(

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

no commentary on radio 5

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

link there use it. why wouyld yo want a radio?

bman - September 27, 2011 Reply

Alfonso Bedoya said:
That’s fuckin ridiculous… like him or not, Berbatov deserves better than this…

Ferguson is being a right cunt.

I agree it’s ridiculous, but what choice does Fergie have? Berba just doesn’t get it done. He had his chance this weekend. That said, I thought he and Welbeck might make a nice combo, disappointed that we probably won’t see it in action.

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

saving him for the business end of the season

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

ltel said:
link there use it. why wouyld yo want a radio?

im old fashioned
used to listen to commentary on radio 2 as a wee lad and never lost the habit

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

bman said:
I agree it’s ridiculous, but what choice does Fergie have? Berba just doesn’t get it done. He had his chance this weekend. That said, I thought he and Welbeck might make a nice combo, disappointed that we probably won’t see it in action.

that sounds like a rite bummerism

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

terrible header..square head fuckwit

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

ltel said:
terrible header..square head fuckwit

thats not nice at all

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

han said:
thats not nice at all

true tho

Alfonso Bedoya - September 27, 2011 Reply

bman said:
I agree it’s ridiculous, but what choice does Fergie have? Berba just doesn’t get it done.

Fine… then sell him…
Ferguson keeps going on in the press about how “Berbatov is important, and has a roll to play”… bollocks… he’s just dickin him about… if Berbatov can’t even get in the team in a home game against Basel…ffs…

“Badges, to god-damned hell with badges! We have no badges. In fact, we don’t need badges. I don’t have to show you any stinking badges, you god-damned cabrón and ching’ tu madre! Come out from that shit-hole of yours. I have to speak to you.”

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

aye alf
fucking tragic the way he has been treated

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

wellllllllllllllllllllbeckkkkkkkkk off the post
what the fuck do i know????????

Alfonso Bedoya - September 27, 2011 Reply

Get in…

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

get in.. hes doing well

uncleknobheadforfucksake - September 27, 2011 Reply

two for welbeck, good lad

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

I take it back, Wellinbeck

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

fuck that
2-0 wellbeck again

Alfonso Bedoya - September 27, 2011 Reply

Go on Danny boy…

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

Giggs with 2 assists

He must have the best assist record in Europe in relation to games played

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

Fergie vindicated leaving Berba out

bman - September 27, 2011 Reply

Fucking hell, I can’t watch and I have to follow the match on internet updates. I thought there was a mistake, because the the page said Welbeck scores from a Giggs assist twice in a row…

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

bman said:
Fucking hell, I can’t watch and I have to follow the match on internet updates. I thought there was a mistake, because the the page said Welbeck scores from a Giggs assist twice in a row…

u can get updates on radio 5 – that is if you don’t mind listening to the commentary on the council house tenants

bman - September 27, 2011 Reply

Welbeck is beginning to look like a bit of a goal machine, he’s really looking good so far this season – more dangerous than Hernandez even.

bman - September 27, 2011 Reply

han said:
u can get updates on radio 5 – that is if you don’t mind listening to the commentary on the council house tenants

Don’t think that works outside the UK, I’m in the US at the moment…

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

apart from rooney, has any other player scored a hat trick on his united debut in europe?

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

Jones having a go at Rio then, I think

Just1n - September 27, 2011 Reply

defense looking shite

reddread - September 27, 2011 Reply

Jones, Young and De Gea were a waste of money, Welbeck will never be good enough for United and Giggs is past it. Anything I haven’t covered?

Mongoletsi - September 27, 2011 Reply

Man, that’s nice crack you’re smoking!

Just1n - September 27, 2011 Reply

Danni wants a shout out for Anderson…

Mongoletsi - September 27, 2011 Reply

“Come on Carrick! Do something good for once! SHIIIIT! That WAS good!”

Almost…

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

give fletch the skippers arm band and gibson is the futue

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

ltel said:
give fletch the skippers arm band and gibson is the futue

where is the dungeon master these days?

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

Bayern 1-0 Bitters

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

sidney said:
Bayern 1-0 Bitters

cant stand the krauts……
but still want them to fuck the tenants

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

han said:
where is the dungeon master these days?

internet scamming is time consuming

bman - September 27, 2011 Reply

Sounds like our defending is shite again, par for the course this season so far. It’s gonna cost us.

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

Carrick mopping up brilliantly then

And earlier on he actually got ahead of the ball and in a good position in the box

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

benfica 1-0 up at the gypsys

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

bman said:
Sounds like our defending is shite again, par for the course this season so far. It’s gonna cost us.

we are missing our captian our rightback and rio is fucked,, once they are all back we will b sorted. vida is a massive miss for us

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

ltel said:
internet scamming is time consuming

aye
but im sure theres an army at it

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

should have made it 3 there antonio

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

2-0 Bayern

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

tenants gonna be evicted
2-0 to the krauts

Mongoletsi - September 27, 2011 Reply

Jones kept it in with a cheeky heel volley :o)

Just1n - September 27, 2011 Reply

han said:
tenants gonna be evicted
2-0 to the krauts

Hart made a great save but Mancini must be retarded to bring back Toure for such an important game.

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

ando playing well

danniitronix - September 27, 2011 Reply

See how Anderson’s shit fitness is putting pressure on the others. Just look at the gormless dobbin – it’s Carry On Anderson!! Dopey twit.

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

ltel said:
ando playing well

not 3 words u read often

Just1n - September 27, 2011 Reply

danniitronix said:
See how Anderson’s shit fitness is putting pressure on the others. Just look at the gormless dobbin – it’s Carry On Anderson!! Dopey twit.

Bullshit Danni. Ando is having a good game. Your hatred is blinding you.

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

he has had 1 bad game this season imo

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

Commenter said:
That’s jumpy as fuck for me :o (

what

uncleknobheadforfucksake - September 27, 2011 Reply

who’s dom mcguinnes on talksport

he says we’ve been woeful and their striker should have a hattrick

who is he and is he right

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

uncleknobheadforfucksake said:
who’s dom mcguinnes on talksport

he says we’ve been woeful and their striker should have a hattrick

who is he and is he right

I heard that. The cunt is exaggerating. We’ve been a bit shonky, but it wasn’t as bad as he made out

reddread - September 27, 2011 Reply

danniitronix said:
See how Anderson’s shit fitness is putting pressure on the others. Just look at the gormless dobbin – it’s Carry On Anderson!! Dopey twit.

Incorrect

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

great seeing shitty getting wallopped..

need luton to win for 300..come on you cunts

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

Tel, you always have a bet on, don’t ya

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

general consensus is that defensively not at the races and a better team would have scored at least with 1 of the clear cut chances presented by rio and co
having said that, looking good as an attacking force

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

aye mate.. im addicted.

uncleknobheadforfucksake - September 27, 2011 Reply

I had a 0-0 at bayern and forest to win…

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

60 on united lyon benfca luton

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

sidney said:
Tel, you always have a hard on, don’t ya

toooooooooo much info

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

han said:
toooooooooo much info

this is also true.. had to get rd of the dog because of it

reddread - September 27, 2011 Reply

Save! Great stuff. Shocking defending again, though…

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

faffing around
get a 3rd united fs

reddread - September 27, 2011 Reply

Shit pass there by Anderson. Christ, he’s rubbish

Alfonso Bedoya - September 27, 2011 Reply

ltel said:
60 on united lyon benfca luton

Sorry Mate… Luton will no doubt fuck it up.

Alfonso Bedoya - September 27, 2011 Reply

Fuck sake.

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

Alfonso Bedoya said:

Sorry Mate… Luton will no doubt fuck it up.

im thinking that myself.. if united dont do it first

danniitronix - September 27, 2011 Reply

Red – I’m watching, what in the name of ARSE has he done over and above “average”. Why is he not tackling, not shouting for the ball, getting into a position that actually resembles something close to a tactical plan.

Look at him! Just look at the spanner – he’s tired already!

reddread - September 27, 2011 Reply

Oh. Quite the finish, that

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

twats
let them in ffs
come on united

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

oh my god.. what the fuck

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

cocksuckers

Just1n - September 27, 2011 Reply

WTF is going on

Alfonso Bedoya - September 27, 2011 Reply

Awesome…

reddread - September 27, 2011 Reply

danniitronix said:
Red – I’m watching, what in the name of ARSE has he done over and above “average”. Why is he not tackling, not shouting for the ball, getting into a position that actually resembles something close to a tactical plan.

Look at him! Just look at the spanner – he’s tired already!

Dude, give it a fucking rest, eh? Suppose their goals were his fault because he looked at the ball the wrong way on the halfway line…?

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

fucking jokers
come on united ffs

uncleknobheadforfucksake - September 27, 2011 Reply

mcguinnes has perked up

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

bet just went tits up.. united drawing luton down..

danniitronix - September 27, 2011 Reply

Exactly my friend, a progressivly weak midfield caused by a progressively shitter Anderson which we could see for the last 30mins of playing time puts pressure on the other two in the park. That weakens the defence and so they loose confidence because the chump anderson is contributing nothing – where the fuck was he for the goal – did he track back – put the opposition midfield under pressure. No he didn’t.

Nothing going forward, nothing to shore up the back. Please don’t say he is playing well, when he is nothing more than average / shit, again.

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

stick berba and nani on before its too fucking late

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

cal disappears and you return.. hmmmmmmm

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

Fabio injured again

Alfonso Bedoya - September 27, 2011 Reply

FFS… Fabio crocked… good little players, him and his bro… but fuckin hell, they’re frail.

Alfonso Bedoya - September 27, 2011 Reply

What the fuck is this ref playing at?

brianofnazareth - September 27, 2011 Reply

R.I.P Rio Ferdinand.

uncleknobheadforfucksake - September 27, 2011 Reply

he’s bouncing now mcguinnes

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

fucking cunts

brianofnazareth - September 27, 2011 Reply

Ferdinand has been an absolute passenger tonight… I honestly think his time could be coming to an end.

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

Can’t get a good stream FFS

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

fuck me this is a digrace..

Robbo - September 27, 2011 Reply

How the fuck can we go from 2 – 0 to 3 – 2 down the mind boggles.

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

jones was wank there…

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

tevez refusing to play

uncleknobheadforfucksake - September 27, 2011 Reply

have we ever lost from 2-0 up under taggart

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

come on reds

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

uncleknobheadforfucksake said:
have we ever lost from 2-0 up under taggart

whata question that is.. wrecking my brain and cant think of a time

danniitronix - September 27, 2011 Reply

Don’t worry Andersons “playing well”, “mazy runs”, “incisive passing”, “great engine”.

He’s gonna get us out of this, I can feel it!!!

It was obvious that Jones was gping to fuck up in Europe, said it two weeks ago. He thinks he is better than he is – mind you so do a lot of peoplem

madredmonkey - September 27, 2011 Reply

just got in, what is going on ffs.

Alfonso Bedoya - September 27, 2011 Reply

ltel said:
tevez refusing to play

Eh?

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

why the fuck play berbs with 9 mins left?

brianofnazareth - September 27, 2011 Reply

Jones has had a shocker all night!

Any team that has J Sung-Park in it doesn’t deserve to win the champions league!!

Is he really a pro footballer?

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

you have lost it danni..

madredmonkey - September 27, 2011 Reply

come on.

brianofnazareth - September 27, 2011 Reply

ltel said:
tevez refusing to play

So is Rio Ferdinand….

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

carrick and rio have been wank.. blame them danni

brianofnazareth - September 27, 2011 Reply

ltel said:
carrick and rio have been wank.. blame them danni

Didn’t know Carrick was still on…

The sooner Carrick and Park leave us we can move on to win the champions league!

brianofnazareth - September 27, 2011 Reply

Nani is our new Ronaldo!

He has to start every game!

Just1n - September 27, 2011 Reply

`now to win it

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

fucking yesssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Alfonso Bedoya - September 27, 2011 Reply

Get the fuck INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Robbo - September 27, 2011 Reply

brianofnazareth said:
Didn’t know Carrick was still on…

The sooner Carrick and Park leave us we can move on to win the champions league!

If we cant beat a bunch of Toberone eating Swiss cunts after leading by 2 goals how the fuck are we supposed to win the Champions League Brian ?

Just1n - September 27, 2011 Reply

Robbo said:
If we cant beat a bunch of Toberone eating Swiss cunts after leading by 2 goals how the fuck are we supposed to win the Champions League Brian ?

better to blame the guy who came on late in the 2nd half.

Alfonso Bedoya - September 27, 2011 Reply

danniitronix said:
It was obvious that Jones was gping to fuck up in Europe, said it two weeks ago. He thinks he is better than he is

Just like you.

madredmonkey - September 27, 2011 Reply

yes young.

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY REF YOU CUNT

Alfonso Bedoya - September 27, 2011 Reply

This ref is a knob… get out of the fuckin way…

Just1n - September 27, 2011 Reply

fuck sake Berbatov

danniitronix - September 27, 2011 Reply

Tel, Jones is an excellent prospect but he isn’t (yet) as good as what people say, Smalling is.

82 mins of shit from Ando, 3 goals from three + seasons, ejected from Brazilian national squad by Lucas Leiva, but yeah he’s great.

I saw Edgar Davids play at VDS’s testamonial a month ago with Saha, Giggs, Rooney + Bergkamp and Overmars.

Davids box to boxed for 10 mins solid at the age of 40 and I saw what Anderson should have been like – but he is not, never in a million years.

brianofnazareth - September 27, 2011 Reply

Rio is slowly moving to my hate list… put the ball in the box you passenger cunt!! he’s fucking slow and looks like he has arthritis. Ship the cunt out!

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

Berba, cunt

Absolute cunt

A tap in for Nani, you cunt

dozer - September 27, 2011 Reply

FUCK berbatov are you even a fucking striker?!! Hit the fucking target you cunt

fat maradona - September 27, 2011 Reply

Park has played worse for 10 mins than Anderson did for 82 mins.

Alfonso Bedoya - September 27, 2011 Reply

What a game…

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

i think jones is beter than smaling now.. and he will be one of the best in th world

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

thats right
fucking have a go at berba our resident bulgarian whore
just forget the shit served up by rio, carrick, anderson and evra for the 80 mins prior to him coming on

uncleknobheadforfucksake - September 27, 2011 Reply

mcguiness deflated

Robbo - September 27, 2011 Reply

Poor showing two points from two games just isn’t good enough a team of the calibre of United should be able to see off Basel.

dozer - September 27, 2011 Reply

ltel said:
i think jones is beter than smaling now.. and he will be one of the best in th world

After this you think Jones is better than Smalling? Nobody has looked more solid than Smalling and he’s great goint forward too.

reddread - September 27, 2011 Reply

danniitronix said:

It was obvious that Jones was gping to fuck up in Europe, said it two weeks ago. He thinks he is better than he is – mind you so do a lot of peoplem

He is only just fucking 19 years old! Jesus Christ, some fucking people.

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

welbeck missed a header after it was 3-3
anyone want to call him a fucking useless cocksucking whore of a dog’s pussy?????????

brianofnazareth - September 27, 2011 Reply

fat maradona said:
Park has played worse for 10 mins than Anderson did for 82 mins.

Agreed. He is not a footballer Park, if he was British/European he’d be league 1 at best!

danniitronix - September 27, 2011 Reply

Yeah Young is shit, not United quality, we deserve a proper midfielder … fuck off bitches.

Thank fuck Anderson was on the bench tucking into a bowl of kellogs special k.

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

that hairdryer is well and truly going to be back in the dressing room
ffs that was a load of bollox served up in the 2nd half against a fucking championship calibre team
without rooney we look lost in the last 2 games
stupid clueless muppets who should take the lead, don’t…yes rio, playing like a fucking 1 legged cunt
we should have buried these cheese eating yodooling fuckers well before half time
the boy welbeck got 2 goals and yet the experienced players totally lost their focus
i hope SAF gets the dryer out and shoves it up their arses
fucking fuming

uncleknobheadforfucksake - September 27, 2011 Reply

don’t knock special k

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

at least tevez will be the big news tomorrw. what a cunt

welcome to anchester posters back up tonight

Robbo - September 27, 2011 Reply

han said:
that hairdryer is well and truly going to be back in the dressing room
ffs that was a load of bollox served up in the 2nd half against a fucking championship calibre team
without rooney we look lost in the last 2 games
stupid clueless muppets who should take the lead, don’t…yes rio, playing like a fucking 1 legged cunt
we should have buried these cheese eating yodooling fuckers well before half time
the boy welbeck got 2 goals and yet the experienced players totally lost their focus
i hope SAF gets the dryer out and shoves it up their arses
fucking fuming

Han see´´s it as it is, the monkey cock sucking cunt that he is

RobDiablo - September 27, 2011 Reply

han said:
…without rooney we look lost in the last 2 games

That’s because he is also our best midfielder.

reddread - September 27, 2011 Reply

danniitronix said:
Yeah Young is shit, not United quality, we deserve a proper midfielder … fuck off bitches.

Thank fuck Anderson was on the bench tucking into a bowl of kellogs special k.

I’ve never said anything negative about Young myself, but to be fair, you’re slagging off Jones now tonight, so, you know, welcome to our world…

danniitronix - September 27, 2011 Reply

How’s the diet, I cracked – back on the Frosties. Did a 5k run yesterday, nearly died. My bender biking’s not helping either.

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

back on the glue ful time too it woud seem

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

Robbo – u really think i’m wrong?
it was piss poor tonight and those older players should look at themselves seriously tonite and remind themselves what it means to play for the red shirt

squigs - September 27, 2011 Reply

People on here still think Ferdinand is the best defender in the world. It’s beyond me

Poor overall, and we are lucky to get a draw in the end.

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

That’s a good point… We haven’t kept a clean sheet for a while now

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

danniitronix said:
How’s the diet, I cracked – back on the Frosties. Did a 5k run yesterday, nearly died. My bender biking’s not helping either.

get off the bender then
keep the cycle though

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

he is nly back from injury and defo not up to speed, he will get back to his best

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

squigs said:
People on here still think Ferdinand is the best defender in the world. It’s beyond me

Poor overall, and we are lucky to get a draw in the end.

rio should be retired otherwise another larry white is waiting in the wings

Robbo - September 27, 2011 Reply

han said:
Robbo – u really think i’m wrong?
it was piss poor tonight and those older players should look at themselves seriously tonite and remind themselves what it means to play for the red shirt

No han I think you totally right that was a shite lack lustre performance and our CL outings this season leave a lot to be desired FFs when we saw the group we all thought oh yes but not any more.

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

those gypos we play next will be well motivated by that shit served up

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

Fergie not happy
Said the defence and midfield were shite
Maybe we should have signed a destroyer… It’s been a long while since we kept a clean sheet
Norwich at the weekend, a similar game. More sloppy bollocks and we won’t get the 3 points

Spike - September 27, 2011 Reply

typical utd game

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

and all those tevez cocksuckers on here – he really showed his true colours tonite in kraut city
for all berbas shortcomings, the guy is a class act compared to that argentinian prostitute

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

Spike said:
typical utd game

what the fuck r u talking shit for
how the fuck was that typical
we were 2 – 0 up ffs and played like wet open pussies defensively and let those swiss mothers arse rape us

danniitronix - September 27, 2011 Reply

Red, you have never slagged off Young, Unc and the self-promoting “Mod” Alf have and continued a campaign all summer about how he wasn’t united quality but to be fair Unc has changed and acknowledged young’s power of x-factory.

As for Jones, what’s your problem? I consider him overrated as compared to what you and most others feel. There is no doubt that he has the tools but he is not the “special one”, not yet. He’s fucked up before this season, he was at times clueless tonight, out of his depth and actually needing a hand.

For the record, Smalling is as good as everyone says and better. De Gea I think is one notch below Smalling – outrageously skilled.

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

danniitronix said:
Red, you have never slagged off Young, Unc and the self-promoting “Mod” Alf have and continued a campaign all summer about how he wasn’t united quality but to be fair Unc has changed and acknowledged young’s power of x-factory.

As for Jones, what’s your problem? I consider him overrated as compared to what you and most others feel. There is no doubt that he has the tools but he is not the “special one”, not yet. He’s fucked up before this season, he was at times clueless tonight, out of his depth and actually needing a hand.

For the record, Smalling is as good as everyone says and better. De Gea I think is one notch below Smalling – outrageously skilled.

aye rio should have helped jones out but was too busy playing catch up

sheesh - September 27, 2011 Reply

Both Da Silvas should fuck off back to Brazil. I don’t care how good they supposedly are. If they’re never fit, they should fuck off.

Jones is still young and has a lot to learn but has all the basic attributes. He still needs to develop an understanding with the other defenders but this will come with time. Rio Ferdinand has a major job trying to get into the first team. All of a sudden, Evans is a wanted man again.

It was a typical United performance. Take the lead against a team we are expected to bury and then sit back stroking our fannies, instead of going for the kill and finishing them off.

There was far too much of that tippy tappy arsing about. Now we must win all of our remaining games. We couldn’t have asked for an easier draw if Fergie had inspected and hand-picked the balls himself.

What a joke.

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

sheesh said:
Both Da Silvas should fuck off back to Brazil. I don’t care how good they supposedly are. If they’re never fit, they should fuck off.

Jones is still young and has a lot to learn but has all the basic attributes. He still needs to develop an understanding with the other defenders but this will come with time. Rio Ferdinand has a major job trying to get into the first team. All of a sudden, Evans is a wanted man again.

It was a typical United performance. Take the lead against a team we are expected to bury and then sit back stroking our fannies, instead of going for the kill and finishing them off.

There was far too much of that tippy tappy arsing about. Now we must win all of our remaining games. We couldn’t have asked for an easier draw if Fergie had inspected and hand-picked the balls himself.

What a joke.

not as big a joke as tevcunt over at the council tip

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

Roberto Mancini on Carlos Tevez after the Argentine refused to come off the bench tonight: “He’s finished with me, with me he’s finished.”

ltel - September 27, 2011 Reply

: More from Mancini on Tevez: “Can you imagine a Bayern Munich, Milan or man U player doing this?” And on Edin Dzeko, who reacted angrily after being brought off: “He had a poor game. In terms of being unhappy, it should be me, not him. This is the last time with me a player will do this.”

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

I’ve just seen a montage of the City bench during their match…
Seriously, what the fuck is going on…
A few players kicked off, not just Tevez. Dzeko had a tantrum after he was subbed and threw his shirt to the ground. Zabaleta, I think it was, kicked off with a coach who tried to talk to him. He threw the fellas hands off him. And Brian Kidd had to hold back Mancini from having a go at someone on the bench
Shambolic as fuck
And we think we have got problems… At least ours are just on the pitch
City have come up against their first proper test – their first proper good decent team – and the wheels have well and truly flown the fuck off the metaphorical waggon

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

ltel said:
Roberto Mancini on Carlos Tevez after the Argentine refused to come off the bench tonight: “He’s finished with me, with me he’s finished.”

can u blame mancini though? he can’t do or say anything else
the guy tevcunt is a joke
throws his toys out – SAF knew this and got shot of the cunt
and anyone who says they would rather have kept him instead of berbs really needs their balls massaged in a flour mill

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

sidney said:
I’ve just seen a montage of the City bench during their match…

Seriously, what the fuck is going on…

A few players kicked off, not just Tevez. Dzeko had a tantrum after he was subbed and threw his shirt to the ground. Zabaleta, I think it was, kicked off with a coach who tried to talk to him. He threw the fellas hands off him. And Brian Kidd had to hold back Mancini from having a go at someone on the bench

Shambolic as fuck

And we think we have got problems… At least ours are just on the pitch

City have come up against their first proper test – their first proper good decent team – and the wheels have well and truly flown the fuck off the metaphorical waggon

i beg to differ old bean
we played the tenants also, remember

reddread - September 27, 2011 Reply

danniitronix said:
Red, you have never slagged off Young, Unc and the self-promoting “Mod” Alf have and continued a campaign all summer about how he wasn’t united quality but to be fair Unc has changed and acknowledged young’s power of x-factory.

As for Jones, what’s your problem? I consider him overrated as compared to what you and most others feel. There is no doubt that he has the tools but he is not the “special one”, not yet. He’s fucked up before this season, he was at times clueless tonight, out of his depth and actually needing a hand.

For the record, Smalling is as good as everyone says and better. De Gea I think is one notch below Smalling – outrageously skilled.

My problem, such as it is, is that Jones has played a handful of competitive matches for us yet you seem happy to write him off as overrated. He’s 19 and still learning. He will, I repeat will, be United captain before he is 25.

Smalling had similar teething problems, and look at him 9 months later. Fucking quality, as you rightly say. De Gea, too, is getting better, more confident, by the game and still learning, just like Jones. You just need to afford him the same patience as you are the other two.

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

2216: Even more from Mancini on Tevez: “If I have my way he will be out of the club.”

2212: More from Mancini on Tevez: “Can you imagine a Bayern Munich, Milan or Man Utd player doing this?” And on Edin Dzeko, who reacted angrily after being brought off: “He had a poor game. In terms of being unhappy, it should be me, not him. This is the last time with me a player will do this.”

danniitronix - September 27, 2011 Reply

Squigs, Han, – the most important thing about Rio is that defence is too easy for him. He is so talented that he simply does not need think about it. it always has been an easy game for him

History shows throughout his career that he needs a kick up the arse, he gets complacent, he gets bored and now he wants to hang out with Timbaland and Jay-Z.

Once he has that kick, he is without any doubt, one of if not the best. He is so good that Vida and VDs, play better and the three of them formed a record breaking partnership.

Complacency is fine if you get your arse gets kicked and you still have the body. Hwr that perfect defenders physique is slowly faltering. That is the problem now.

Like Tel says, get him fit and he is still the best – his fefending intelligence and ability to perfrom impervious partnerships will go down in United / EPL history.

He needs to be given that chance because Smalling, Jones, Evans, De Gea – hell even Vida, have a lot to learn from and owe a lot of debt to His Royal Highness, E-Z Ferdinand.

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

SAF needs to put his arm round berbs and give him back some confidence
otherwise we will lose out on the guy’s quality when we need it most

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

danniitronix said:
Squigs, Han, – the most important thing about Rio is that defence is too easy for him. He is so talented that he simply does not need think about it. it always has been an easy game for him

History shows throughout his career that he needs a kick up the arse, he gets complacent, he gets bored and now he wants to hang out with Timbaland and Jay-Z.

Once he has that kick, he is without any doubt, one of if not the best. He is so good that Vida and VDs, play better and the three of them formed a record breaking partnership.

Complacency is fine if you get your arse gets kicked and you still have the body. Hwr that perfect defenders physique is slowly faltering. That is the problem now.

Like Tel says, get him fit and he is still the best – his fefending intelligence and ability to perfrom impervious partnerships will go down in United / EPL history.

He needs to be given that chance because Smalling, Jones, Evans, De Gea – hell even Vida, have a lot to learn from and owe a lot of debt to His Royal Highness, E-Z Ferdinand.

Danni
it pains me to say this about an absolute class act that he has been at united, but he just doesnt look the part at the moment and hasnt for a while
maybe the kick up the arse will work and SAF will definitely give him that, but i get the feeling his best years have gone and we are looking at a future liability
there are games when he will be more exposed than tonite for sure

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

btw
im sure scholesy refused to play in a league cup tie at the arse a few years back – but SAF didn’t kick his arse into touch did he?

reddread - September 27, 2011 Reply

Fuck me. Real destroyed Ajax. First goal was a thing of beauty

danniitronix - September 27, 2011 Reply

Ffs, will you stop reading what you want to read.

I am saying he is overrated. He is – you act as if he is the bomb, yet he got shown up today; were people to have some perspective, he is not as good as that. He is a prospect that is it.

Quite frankly its an irrelevance whether he is captain at 25. What does that prove? What will prove that he is a world class player is if together with smalling and de gea with vida and rio supervisin, they form something akin to the great wall of china where ever they go.

Feel free to keep bumming him up but I think that stance looses credibility in the face of such abject errors.

squigs - September 27, 2011 Reply

danniitronix said:
Squigs, Han, – the most important thing about Rio is that defence is too easy for him. He is so talented that he simply does not need think about it. it always has been an easy game for him

History shows throughout his career that he needs a kick up the arse, he gets complacent, he gets bored and now he wants to hang out with Timbaland and Jay-Z.

Once he has that kick, he is without any doubt, one of if not the best. He is so good that Vida and VDs, play better and the three of them formed a record breaking partnership.

Complacency is fine if you get your arse gets kicked and you still have the body. Hwr that perfect defenders physique is slowly faltering. That is the problem now.

Like Tel says, get him fit and he is still the best – his fefending intelligence and ability to perfrom impervious partnerships will go down in United / EPL history.

He needs to be given that chance because Smalling, Jones, Evans, De Gea – hell even Vida, have a lot to learn from and owe a lot of debt to His Royal Highness, E-Z Ferdinand.

He has not been anywhere near the best defender in the world for a good while. You talk as if he is Baresi or something and you don’t have much issue when he is complacent, he is the senior partner in a defence that conceded three goals to Basel, no where near good enough. He has great anticipation and has been a top defender. I don’t think we will see him much fitter then he is now though.

Physically it’s not slowly failing, it’s probably gone already he has been unfortunate with injuries and back injuries are awfully slow to heal, it’s affected him and he is short quite a bit of pace now.

Ichiro - September 27, 2011 Reply

I dont think anyone thinks he is anything more than an excellent prospect. No one thinks he is the finished article at 19 surely.

squigs - September 27, 2011 Reply

han said:
btw
im sure scholesy refused to play in a league cup tie at the arse a few years back – but SAF didn’t kick his arse into touch did he?

Quite a difference between a reserve team in the league cup and the champions league.

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

squigs said:
Quite a difference between a reserve team in the league cup and the champions league.

i concur old chap

uncleknobheadforfucksake - September 27, 2011 Reply

what a player schweinstieger is

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

reddread said:
Fuck me. Real destroyed Ajax. First goal was a thing of beauty

i dread to think what the score would have been if we had played them tonite

reddread - September 27, 2011 Reply

Ichiro said:
I dont think anyone thinks he is anything more than an excellent prospect. No one thinks he is the finished article at 19 surely.

Exactly. Yet Danniitronix talks about me reading what I want to read.

uncleknobheadforfucksake - September 27, 2011 Reply

I don’t understand this discussion

jones is the bollocks, smalling is also the bollocks but jones will be the bigger bollocks, de gea is also the bollocks, rooney is the biggest bollocks

berbatov not so much

squigs - September 27, 2011 Reply

No real discussion on that.

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

uncleknobheadforfucksake said:
I don’t understand this discussion

jones is the bollocks, smalling is also the bollocks but jones will be the bigger bollocks, de gea is also the bollocks, rooney is the biggest bollocks

berbatov not so much

thats rite
bring in that bulgarian pussy sniffer even when he isn’t part of your discussion
ffs why don’t u just go shoot him once and for all and be done with it
and 1 more thing – when he scored those vital goals for us last season, were u still such a bitter twisted twat? or maybe u just want your tevcunt back?

uncleknobheadforfucksake - September 27, 2011 Reply

well tevez scored a winner at anfield, so what

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

uncleknobheadforfucksake said:
well tevez scored a winner at anfield, so what

and berbs got a hat trick last season against the scum – so what?

uncleknobheadforfucksake - September 27, 2011 Reply

so nothing, I called out tevez as shite and a cunt from the word go while justin alf and others said he was the bollocks, berbatov is equally shite and even more of a cunt since he don’t even have the bollocks to kick up a fuss about fergie humiliating him. pathetic

han - September 27, 2011 Reply

uncleknobheadforfucksake said:
so nothing, I called out tevez as shite and a cunt from the word go while justin alf and others said he was the bollocks, berbatov is equally shite and even more of a cunt since he don’t even have the bollocks to kick up a fuss about fergie humiliating him. pathetic

berbs is acting with a degree of dignity which elevates him above most mercenery footballers – regardless of the way SAF has treated him (which is totally out of order), he refuses to chuck his toys out; therefore regardless of his detractors on here, he will remain a true professional who deserves better than the shit he gets on here from some so called supporters

Triggs - September 27, 2011 Reply

The PL top scorers last year have both been frozen out – for differing reasons.

Tevez has gone on strike, just at the point that his club need him most. Remember even if City had got just one back, that could have a made a difference to the table after all six rounds.

Berbatov has been a professional, because he respects the club, the fans and cares deeply about playing for the club.

Yet here we have an absolute cunt of a follower, who is so myopic in his irrational dislike for the player that he suggests that he’s pathetic for not acting like a spolit prick. What an utter spiv you are unclekiddyfiddler.

If Rooney and Chica remain unfit and Berba doesnt start against Norwich it’s a fucking disgrace.

sidney - September 27, 2011 Reply

Just seen Bayern’s goals… Joe Hart’s reaction after the second one is worth a watch
He goes fucking mental
They’ve got some serious issues

squigs - September 27, 2011 Reply

Yeah I thought it was just me who thought that, he isn’t known as hot headed and he seemed absolutely livid.

Top keeper mind, he kept that score respectable.

Stego10 - September 28, 2011 Reply

Anyone that saw Rio’s performance on Sunday would agree that it is not complacency or confidence that is undermining his performance. The problem is that his legs “have gone”. This isn’t manifest in his ability to cover ground or even tackle-it is his ableness to jump for the ball. The tell tale signs were there on Sunday and as any number of ex-pro’s will tell you it is that ability that goes first.All good things must come to an end?

Stego10 - September 28, 2011 Reply

ps that of course should read Saturday-dearie me.

dozer - September 28, 2011 Reply

Jones’ weakness is his ability in the air. He can’t jump for peanuts, Evra was marking Crouch most of the time in the first half for the corners in Stoke – he did well.
Jones was beaten by Crouch most of the time.
He’s a great potential but it’s too early to say he’s the next coming of Jesus etc.
Does he have more potential than Smalling? Yes, perhaps.
But currently Smalling is the better defender, and the better player.

Sir Ryan Giggs? No no no. Sir Paul Scholes say.

danniitronix - September 28, 2011 Reply

I’m with you on that – according to some on here Jones shits out gold turds.

damian garside - September 28, 2011 Reply

We play a single player up front (and therefore crowd the midfield) and concede 3 goals at home to a Swiss team and now only have 2 points from 3 games. Maybe we should start criticizing the decision not to get a player who could have combined beautifully with Rooney — but also stand in for him and provide something when he is injured. Now our season is a lottery as to whether he (Rooney)gets injured or not again and for how long. This is not the way to defend our Premiership title or take the CL by storm.

Is Tevez our fifth column over the road at the Council House?

brianofnazareth - September 28, 2011 Reply

han said:
that hairdryer is well and truly going to be back in the dressing room
ffs that was a load of bollox served up in the 2nd half against a fucking championship calibre team
without rooney we look lost in the last 2 games
stupid clueless muppets who should take the lead, don’t…yes rio, playing like a fucking 1 legged cunt
we should have buried these cheese eating yodooling fuckers well before half time
the boy welbeck got 2 goals and yet the experienced players totally lost their focus
i hope SAF gets the dryer out and shoves it up their arses
fucking fuming

Hi Han,

welcome to the “top 3 list” of my favourite ranters. Earn your stay.I like you.

Alfonso Bedoya - September 28, 2011 Reply

danniitronix said:
Red, you have never slagged off Young, Unc and the self-promoting “Mod” Alf have and continued a campaign all summer about how he wasn’t united quality but to be fair Unc has changed and acknowledged young’s power of x-factory.

Not only are you a pissy little school girl, but you’re also a hypocrite, an idiot and a liar.

And I didn’t have to have a pathetic little side dig in saying so.

Alfonso Bedoya - September 28, 2011 Reply

uncleknobheadforfucksake said:
so nothing, I called out tevez as shite and a cunt from the word go while justin alf and others said he was the bollocks, berbatov is equally shite and even more of a cunt since he don’t even have the bollocks to kick up a fuss about fergie humiliating him. pathetic

Hang on a minute.

Tevez may well be a cunt… but he’s a great little player when he’s in the mood.

But the argument was whether he was better than Rooney, and I was never having that.

Alfonso Bedoya - September 28, 2011 Reply

Anyone got a footage of the Bayern/Bitters carry on… I missed it.

brianofnazareth - September 28, 2011 Reply

Alfonso Bedoya said:
Anyone got a footage of the Bayern/Bitters carry on… I missed it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjJ4rRTO8xQ

brianofnazareth - September 28, 2011 Reply

Picture is not the best mate but it’s a longer video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRvaez1g-44

Alfonso Bedoya - September 28, 2011 Reply

Just a side note on the Bayern/City game… and why Mancini is not the man to take the Bitters to the big time.

“I don’t know why he was upset. Maybe because he did not go on as the first substitute.

“But I decide these things. At that moment, I decided to change Edin with Nigel de Jong because I wanted to make sure we didn’t concede a third goal as we still had 30 minutes to the end.”

captainhormone - September 28, 2011 Reply

horrible joke of a club

this will either split them or make them stronger

however one thing is for certain…their troubles do seem perpetual under the current mercenary regime

Long may it continue

Alfonso Bedoya - September 28, 2011 Reply

Cheers Bri…

What a dick… and how long has he been playing in England? 6/7 years?… and he still needs an interpreter?

captainhormone - September 28, 2011 Reply

correct Alf…it is shocking….I’d expect to know the language of the people of the country I work in out of respect to them….But clearly Carlos is above all mere mortals in his eyes…

brianofnazareth - September 28, 2011 Reply

Alfonso Bedoya said:
Cheers Bri…

What a dick… and how long has he been playing in England? 6/7 years?… and he still needs an interpreter?

No probs.

That’s the problem he’s just not arsed, a player wanting to make it in another country would learn the language.

Damian Garside - September 28, 2011 Reply

3-3 at home to Basel. Basel: as in `good in a pesto, or with mozzarella and tomatoes’ or `You ponce in here expecting to be waited on hand and foot while I’m trying to run a hotel here!’

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