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Momentum with Reds but tough Spurs challenge lies ahead

October 29, 2010 Tags: , Matches 97 comments

Manchester United returns to Premier League action after the midweek Carling Cup sojourn, with the momentum now firmly in Sir Alex Ferguson’s camp. Saturday’s challenge could hardly be more difficult in domestic terms but an unbeaten start and three wins on the bounce means confidence is at a high as Tottenham Hotspur visit.

For perhaps the first time in a generation Ferguson will cast envious eyes at the visiting Spurs side. Harry Redknapp has assembled a high quality squad that is now realistic challengers both domestically and in Europe. Indeed, the visitors’ midfield including Gareth Bale, Luka Modric, Rafael van der Vaart and Aaron Lennon is a formidable outfit.

Indeed, Ferguson must contend with absences in both midfield and attack if United is to maintain a successful record against Spurs. The Londoners have not won at Old Trafford for 21 years or beaten United anywhere for nine – a total of 25 matches.

Ferguson though will again be without Wayne Rooney, who may miss more than the previously estimated three weeks with an ankle injury. Asked if Rooney’s prognosis had changed Ferguson said “I think it may be longer.”

“Wayne is away at the moment, so there is no recovery,” he added.

“He did his remedial work before he went away but thereafter we are happy that he is resting.”

Rooney’s continued absence means that the Scot must choose whether to match Spurs’ five man midfield or reward Javier Hernández’ fine recent form. The Mexican has scored three goals in the past week and been praised for his composure under pressure but may find a place on the bench or wide in a three-man attack his reward.

Ferguson also has a dilemma at right-back, with in-form Gareth Bale a key weapon in the visitors’ armoury. The Scot will probably choose between John O’Shea or Rafael da Silva to combat the Welshman’s pace.

United also has concerns on the left side of midfield, with Park Ji-Sung horribly out of form and Ferguson not yet fully trusting the merits of Gabriel Obertan or Bébé. Patrice Evra moved into midfield against Stoke City last weekend and may reprise the role if United’s manager deploys four in midfield.

Elsewhere Paul Scholes is set for a recall and Ryan Giggs could make the bench after training this week. Meanwhile, former Spurs midfielder Michael Carrick says that confidence in the United squad is high.

“We need to focus on putting a good run together,” Carrick told ManUtd.com.

“But you can’t look too far ahead and start planning how your run will pan out. We’ve got a huge game against Spurs and we’re focused on that first, but around the camp the atmosphere is bubbly and the lads are happy. It’s a really positive vibe at the moment. Hopefully that carries us through.

“The games come thick and fast now, and thankfully we’re in the cups and fighting in the league. The challenge is there for us to stick together and really mount a challenge.

“That’s what we’re focused on. The games we’ve drawn, we feel like we’ve thrown them away. But we’re still unbeaten, which gives you confidence, and we’ve got three wins in a row.”

Aside from Rooney and the long-term injury victim Antonio Valencia, Michael Owen will miss at least a month with a hamstring problem, while Ferguson says Owen Hargreaves convalescence has suffered a recent set back.

Meanwhile, the visitors will be without Tom Huddlestone, with either Wilson Palacios or Jermain Jenas coming into the side. van der Vaart is likely to occupy his normal role behind Peter Crouch at the head of Tottenham’s midfield.

It is now 67 games since Spurs last won away to one of the Premier League’s big four. Redknapp will never have taken a better team to Old Trafford.

Whether it is good enough to break that streak is as yet undecided.

Opposition
Spurs – 4411 – Gomes; Hutton, Gallas, Bassong, Assou-Ekotto; Lennon, Palacios, Modric, Bale; Van der Vaart; Crouch. Subs from: Kaboul, Bentley, Pavlyuchenko, Keane, Jenas, Dos Santos, Kranjcar, Cudicini, Sandro, Stipe Pletikosa.

United squad
Van der Sar, Kuszczak, Amos, Smalling, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, O’Shea, Evans, Rafael, Fabio, Brown, Anderson, Bébé, Nani, Carrick, Scholes, Giggs, Gibson, Fletcher, Hernández, Berbatov, Macheda, Owen, Obertan.

Officials
Referee: Mark Clattenburg
Assistant referees: Darren Cann & Simon Beck
Fourth official: Mark Halsey

Form
United – WDDWWW
Spurs – LWWWLD

97 comments

RobDiablo - October 29, 2010 Reply

With only one exception, I like your team selection a lot. My question is: have you put O’Shea in at right back because you subscribe to my “Sir Alex always has to make at least one shocking decision that prevents him from putting out his best side” theory, or because you think O’Shea offers something in that position that the other candidates do not? I would go with Brown as first choice, Rafael second.

calvo - October 29, 2010 Reply

Lol, @ RobDiablo!…but soo true!!
I for one is actually gobsmacked that he has been offered a new contract.
But anyway, i would prefer Rafael as his speed is gonna be needed and he gets forward, enough to push Bale back which is where you want him.
I can understand the formation tho and even Carricks inclusion, but i would lean towards Anderson just to add a bit more pace, agility and aggression, Carrick will “allow” Spurs to play whereas Anderson will harrass more…but then who am i when i suport a team led by Fergie!!!…CMON UTD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

redevil_83 - October 29, 2010 Reply

i like you chalkboard tool. i’ve saved it down and edited so i can share and discuss formations for upcoming matches with my mates hehe

redevil_83 - October 29, 2010 Reply

i bet you anderson starts in place of carrick (he had an out in CC), and rafa in place of oshea (brasilian specifically rested for PL match against bale’s pace)

sidney - October 29, 2010 Reply

Neither team can defend
3-3

herbie simms - October 29, 2010 Reply

I just hope SAF has got it right for his game. Iam not looking for a close game, looking for at least 3-0 United.
Will save any further comments until after the game.

Bannister2001 - October 29, 2010 Reply

Spurs team under Redknapp has been a threat the past two seasons,although we came away from the last 2 games with victories we have been made to fight for the points.With Bale in excellent form and lennon who always seems to give evra a good game it should be more of if you can score 5 we can score 6.Hernandez in the past few games has added some composure to his un-doubted promise,berbatov needs to find his goalscoring touch again but thinks its the midfield where this game could be won,scholes should return with fletcher in midfield,carrick is woefully out of sorts but usually has a good game against his former club.Nani is still showing promising form and could be a match winner,modric will need to be stopped from creating unlike previous games when he has ran the show,fingers crossed,it will be entertaining if nothing else.

uncleknobheadforfucksake - October 29, 2010 Reply

clearly they will score

captainhormone - October 29, 2010 Reply

clearly Berbatov wont

StevenageSpur - October 29, 2010 Reply

After scrolling down and seeing who the ref is I think Utd will win! 4 feet over the line!

sheesh - October 29, 2010 Reply

5.30 on a Saturday evening FFS. I want to be going out on a Saturday evening, not stuck watching the match.

I hate all midweek games, Sunday 4pm games and Saturday evening kick offs. Pain in the arse.

Get rid of half the shite in the league and let’s have Saturday 3pms every week please.

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

At our peak in 2008 Fergie would play O’Shea to make a game of it

He’d stick him on knowing he’d fuck up a couple of times and give the opposition a chance/hope/optimism

Now we’re shit it’s no laughing matter when he’s on

herbie simms - October 30, 2010 Reply

This team should be strong enough to beat Spurs:

VAN de SAR
MALCOLM GLAZER VIDIC FERDINAND DAVID GILL
NANI ALEX FERGUSON SCHOLES MIKE PHELAN
HERNANDEZ BERBATOV

A mixture of youth and experience.

kramer - October 30, 2010 Reply

1-2

vidic 27′ – crouch 61′
bale 77′

RobDiablo - October 30, 2010 Reply

No way! United to win 6-5. Hat-trick from Park, a brace from Anderson, and a stoppage time winner from O’Shea.

RobDiablo - October 30, 2010 Reply

Actually, I wouldn’t dream of predicting the outcome of this match until I have seen what happens at Blackburn this afternoon. I think we all know what kind of response we can expect from United if Cheatski drop any points there. So, for United to beat Spurs, Cheatski must beat Rovers.

Spike - October 30, 2010 Reply

Draw..after Utd go 3 times in front

herbie simms - October 30, 2010 Reply

Blackburn just scored, its Blackburn 1 Chelsea 0.

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

United 11: Van Der Sar, Rafael, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Nani, Fletcher, Carrick, Park, Hernandez, Berbatov

Fletcher, Carrick, Park

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

Chelsea winning 2-1

Proper smash & grab

Ancelotti on the pitch

uncleknobheadforfucksake - October 30, 2010 Reply

arsenal get a winner as well

bale not playing for spurs

uncleknobheadforfucksake - October 30, 2010 Reply

that redcafe webshite is fucking useless, bale does play

their midfields gonna piss on us, and no doubt nanis fobbed off to the left so park can man mark bale, we won’t win this

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

Bale starts? FFS

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

The anti-Glazer protest is kicking off

Bottles are being thrown and there’s an attempt to smash the Megastore doors

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

Park looking lively

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

There’s no value in hitting the post

han - October 30, 2010 Reply

come on united

bman - October 30, 2010 Reply

go on boyo!

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

Vidiccc

Great ball in

han - October 30, 2010 Reply

nice one vidaaaaaaaaaaa

bman - October 30, 2010 Reply

Raf’s been doing well against Bale

uncleknobheadforfucksake - October 30, 2010 Reply

rafael doing great

bman - October 30, 2010 Reply

great save by VDS

bman - October 30, 2010 Reply

great match, i don’t think one goal is going to be enough for us.

uncleknobheadforfucksake - October 30, 2010 Reply

game has an air of faff

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

Badly need a second goal

And then a third after the inevitable collapse

Alfonso Bedoya - October 30, 2010 Reply

Carrick you useless ywat!

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

Fucking hell Carrick

Dithering cunt

uncleknobheadforfucksake - October 30, 2010 Reply

brown?

madmax - October 30, 2010 Reply

fucksake.. trying to defend a one goal lead at home???

uncleknobheadforfucksake - October 30, 2010 Reply

oh ffs rafael off

switching to all out defence or summat

Alfonso Bedoya - October 30, 2010 Reply

Scholes for Berbatov? And Rafa off???

FFS… what the fuck is Fergie doing?

Alfonso Bedoya - October 30, 2010 Reply

Should have been Scholes for Carrick.

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

We got a 3 man midfield now then or what

uncleknobheadforfucksake - October 30, 2010 Reply

carrick man marking vdv

Alfonso Bedoya - October 30, 2010 Reply

Good effort Chico.

danniitronix - October 30, 2010 Reply

ffs, at OT 1-0 ahead and looking survive the last 15 mins or so. Spuds are looking very positive.

Alfonso Bedoya - October 30, 2010 Reply

ooff… that was close.

uncleknobheadforfucksake - October 30, 2010 Reply

the equalisers coming

Alfonso Bedoya - October 30, 2010 Reply

VDV done?

Result.

danniitronix - October 30, 2010 Reply

Alfonso Bedoya said:
VDV done?

Result.

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

Dint get in the box quick enough

The counter attack is on though

uncleknobheadforfucksake - October 30, 2010 Reply

goal and assist for nani

Alfonso Bedoya - October 30, 2010 Reply

WTF!!!!

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

How the fuck is that not a penalty

Kaboul has been at it all day

danniitronix - October 30, 2010 Reply

WTF??

danniitronix - October 30, 2010 Reply

GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Alfonso Bedoya - October 30, 2010 Reply

Send ’em all off… cunts.

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

Given

Fucking justice

The linesman cunt only flagged when the Yid cunts protested

madmax - October 30, 2010 Reply

wtf happened

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

Haha that cgoal can’t stand surely

danniitronix - October 30, 2010 Reply

I still don’t get that – wasn’t Gomez just taking his goal kick?

Can some cunt explain?

Alfonso Bedoya - October 30, 2010 Reply

Even the ref was standing there, saying “what are you doing?”

So Nani put it in… can’t blame Nani, if the ref fucks it up.

danniitronix - October 30, 2010 Reply

lol – Gomez thought it was a free kick, for the handball when Nani was on the deck after being pulled down by that dirty shit cunt, Kaboul.

laural and hardy routine

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

danniitronix said:
I still don’t get that – wasn’t Gomez just taking his goal kick?

Can some cunt explain?

Tottenham think it’s a freekick

They think the Nani dived and the ref gave Tottenham a free kick

So Gomes puts the ball down where Nani was fouled, but technically he’s in possession and the ball is live. The ref telling him to kick it (stood there with his arms out as if to say “kick it, son”), but he doesn’t, so Nani runs up and side foots it in

Alfonso Bedoya - October 30, 2010 Reply

This’ll have the ABUs up in arms… Clattenburp helps United again.

uncleknobheadforfucksake - October 30, 2010 Reply

the ref said play on cause spurs had possesion, gomes tried to roll it out for a feekick, nani nicks it, goal given

Alfonso Bedoya - October 30, 2010 Reply

ol ‘Arry will be spitting glass from this… lol

uncleknobheadforfucksake - October 30, 2010 Reply

brilliant nani

Alfonso Bedoya - October 30, 2010 Reply

Game.

Nani has become this years load carrier.

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

Good win

Pleased with the clean sheet

Spike - October 30, 2010 Reply

nice

danniitronix - October 30, 2010 Reply

good win!!!

nani is great – such a positive attiude, never stops trying new things unlike Carrick who is just a passenger – through fletcher did good today too – hats of of rio, vida and vds for keeping the clean sheet

would love to have modric, bale and VDV – they are the missing links in our squad.

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

Lennon & Bale were shit. They dint get a sniff.

They spent most of the match hugging the touchline waiting for the ball, when they should be coming inside, getting involved, pulling people out of position etc.

Park is shit but he causes the opposition problems by mixing it up

The one time Bale came inside he managed to get a decent shot off across goal

bman - October 30, 2010 Reply

At first the goal looked outrageous, but looking at it again, Gomes just fucked up. Priceless. Nani is going to public enemy number 1 now though, was already heading that way, he is a terrible diver.

Would have Bale. I think the gloss on VDV will wear off. Modric and VDV are better than what we have, but not as good as we should have.

Clean sheet with no real defensive midfielder playing against a good side is the best thing about this result. Berba wasn’t great, his winning streak didn’t last very long did it…

uncleknobheadforfucksake - October 30, 2010 Reply

berbatov was shocking again, all attacks end with a pointless berbatov flick to no one followed by him moaning at someone, usually nani, cunt

danniitronix - October 30, 2010 Reply

thing with Bale is that he is and always will be limited by Spuds, but the cunt is positive and needs a real club to see if he can go all the way and be a master, lennon is shit period

ramsay, wilshere and walcott will be dons because they are at a great club and can fulfill potential – wilshere is already kicking-ass and the cunt is what 18?

ffs we have Gibson and Anderson; and Kiddyfiddler has Ramsay and Wilshere, with Fabricunt not even 25.

I’d just jack Gibson and Anderson and start a fresh with Clerverly, Morrison and Eikrem. Bench Carrick and Park.

sheesh - October 30, 2010 Reply

Spurs fans were an embarrassment to their club today. Without being utterly raucous themselves, about 95% of their songs were directed at us as opposed to supporting their own lot with the usual “shall we sing a song for you” and “just like the library” chants that must form their repertoire.

I was delighted we got a break for that 2nd goal. It shut those small-time cunts up for the remainder of the game. It was a good, gritty performance in all – although Fletcher was utter shite today.

herbie simms - October 30, 2010 Reply

Berbatov misses Rooney.

herbie simms - October 30, 2010 Reply

I read now that SAF is angry again with Rooney and wants him to stay out until December. He is saying he wants to be sure that the ankle is 100% when he comes back. Now Rooney does not want to hear that, he is looking to play Nov.14 against Man.City. SAF is now saying he will not be bringing in any world class players to please Rooney. SAF says he is the boss and Rooney cannot tell him what to do.
SAF also said that he will not be bringing in any new players in January, he is quite pleased with the present squad and he goes on to say that he will have Antonio Valencia back in Febuary. So no need to be talking about new players coming in, because there will be none.
I see how SAF thinks because you beat Spurs and he looks at that and feels he don’t need any players, its an undefeated team, so why buy players. Yet David Gill said a couple of days ago that the Glazers had already given SAF money to buy players, so what is Fergie’s problem? If he think’s Rooney is trying to control him, its best he get rid of Rooney and get on with the business of strengthning the squad for the future.

sidney - October 30, 2010 Reply

Unregistered User said:
SAF also said that he will not be bringing in any new players in January, he is quite pleased with the present squad

Are you a WUM

Alfonso Bedoya - October 31, 2010 Reply

Herbie… just to let you know… I think you talk utter shite… and I’d bet that most other Ranters do as well.

No one here wants to know what you read on “some mystery forum”… about what Ferguson supposedly said.

If you’ve come across something legitimate, post the link here… that will be genuinely appreciated… but this, “he said/she said” bollocks is just that… bollocks… until you can show where it came from.

I mean, I’ve got a friend, whose sister is best mates with this girl from Islington, whose parents run a chinese dry cleaner, whose delivery boy apperantly caught the crabs from some tart from Ilford, whose brother is a cross dresser, who takes salsa classes from this guy name Juan… anyway Juan knows a bloke who says he belongs to a low profile Manchester United fan site, and he says he knows this guy who calls himself “herbie simms”… and he says that you’re volunteer, public toilet cleaner who lives near Hamstead Heath, and that he’s seen you on your hands and knees, wearing a Manchester City shirt, taking it in both ends from two lines of Millwall fans.

Just thought you’d like to know.

sheesh - October 31, 2010 Reply

Alfonso Bedoya said:
he’s seen you on your hands and knees, wearing a Manchester City shirt, taking it in both ends from two lines of Millwall fans.

Just thought you’d like to know.

There’s an image I’ll take to bed tonight.

RobDiablo - October 31, 2010 Reply

sheesh said:
There’s an image I’ll take to bed tonight.

Why settle for an image? Dial this number: 1-900-BLU-SUCK, and you can experience the real thing in the comfort of your own home.

kramer - October 31, 2010 Reply

haha
nice goal for nani. should’ve had a penalty anyway. it was the ref’s fault to be honest, i’d have been livid if that had been given against united.
anyway, decent showing. berba was invisible, chicharito is too weak to start these games. fletcher was a little better than usual, same for park.
rafael was great though. i thought this was his acid test, to see whether he was good enough as a defender. he did get skinned once, but overall he did very well. and respect to fergie for leaving o’shea out and starting with a 4-4-2 for once.

captainhormone - October 31, 2010 Reply

yeah, this herbie does come across as a pinchbeck cock

sukhy5 - October 31, 2010 Reply

Leave the lad alone, all he needs to do is post the source:

Sir Alex Ferguson: I’m in charge here! Manchester United boss says Wayne Rooney will return when HE says so and club will not buy in January

Sir Alex Ferguson last night re-established full control in his power battle with Wayne Rooney by ruling out any transfer activity in January and revealing the striker may have to wait until December before being recalled to Manchester United’s first team.

Having helped to make 25-year-old Rooney the highest-paid player in the club’s history nine days ago, Ferguson has moved quickly to make sure the England star realises he will be treated just like any other player from now on.

Dismissing supposed ‘assurances’ Rooney had wanted about future signings, Ferguson insists United’s transfer policy had not changed following the signing of the player’s five-year contract.

Ferguson also made it clear to £200,000-a-week Rooney, who watched the controversial 2-0 win over Tottenham after a week’s holiday in Dubai, that he will decide when the striker makes his comeback.

The form of Dimitar Berbatov and Javier Hernandez gives Ferguson options and he is anxious that Rooney is fully fit when he returns to action from his ankle injury.

‘We won’t be buying in January, definitely not,’ said Ferguson, despite Rooney’s concerns about the strength of United’s squad. ‘You are limited because there are hundreds of players cup-tied for European football.

‘There will be five months of the season left and we will be getting a new player back in February with Antonio Valencia returning from injury, and maybe another in Owen Hargreaves. With the squad I’ve got, I don’t see any reason for us to buy anyone.

‘There has always been money to spend but it doesn’t necessarily mean there will be more transfer activity than normal in the summer. We will buy what we need to buy. We know what we need.

‘There is always this issue if Van der Sar, Scholes, Giggs or Neville were to retire but we’ve been aware of that for two or three years and we are well ahead of that. We know exactly what we have to do.’

Despite United being linked with a number of big-name stars including Luis Suarez, Karim Benzema and Wesley Sneijder, Ferguson has told Rooney and everyone else they will have to keep faith in United’s tradition of bringing on younger players like ‘Chicharito’ Hernandez.

Ferguson is adamant he will not rush Rooney back despite the player’s desire to play every week and is even looking at the Champions League tie with Valencia on December 7 as a possible comeback date.

The 68-year-old said: ‘It may be five weeks before Rooney’s comeback because he will have to pick up his fitness again. I would think five weeks would be about right.

‘There is no chance of the Manchester City game on November 10 coming into the equation. You want any player who has been out a few weeks to be 100 per cent and not breaking down. That is what happened to Ryan Giggs a couple of weeks ago.’

From the Mail online

uncleknobheadforfucksake - October 31, 2010 Reply

the long awaited return of ‘him coming back from injury is like a new signing’

valencia and hargreaves

Spike - October 31, 2010 Reply

captainhormone said:
yeah, this herbie does come across as a pinchbeck cock

Kettle black..oh sorry another Aldi-esque comment from moi

captainhormone - October 31, 2010 Reply

herbie is actually right you bunch of cunts

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6478422,00.html

captainhormone - October 31, 2010 Reply

spike…that’s lidl-esqe

uncleknobheadforfucksake - October 31, 2010 Reply

oh ffs so we’re not even allowed to post in all capitals now

FASCISTS

Ed - October 31, 2010 Reply

Knob – I believe it’s widely thought of as poor etiquette. I do this for all posters!

herbie simms - November 1, 2010 Reply

I do my research before I make comments. Hope you read the article by Sukhy. SAF comments are now featured in most UK newspapers. I said what I said because I did not like SAF coming out one week and saying he is going to buy all these players and then come out a few days later and say he is not buying any players. Most fans have been looking for at least one or two quality midfielders to come in and they will not be pleased to hear this!

RobDiablo - November 1, 2010 Reply

Herbie – one of the reasons a link to these stories would be appreciated is that it would allow us to see what parts of the article consists of quotes from Sir Alex, David Gill, etc. and what parts are comprised of the writer’s speculation, interpretation, imagination, etc.

I am still trying to figure out what this latest development means. Knowing how tight money is at the club, I’m not surprised at the U-turn on the implied promise to spend on new players, but part of me suspects/hopes that it is a smokescreen and that Sir Alex is going to pick up a midfielder in January. Does this mean that Rooney is going to be sold? It’s confusing because spending is what the club need to do to remain competitive at the top level on the pitch, but the last thing they need to do as a business. F*ck the Glazers!

herbie simms - November 1, 2010 Reply

Okay! I will always give everyone the links to these articles. Don’t want to make bad friends on this site and I appreciate what you have to say on the matter.

sukhy5 - November 1, 2010 Reply

Herbie lad…where you from?

I’m taking a guess that English is not your first language?

I appeciate your input in the forum!

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