Preview: Real Madrid v United



For all the attention grabbed by Manchester City in recent seasons there is still something compellingly attractive attached to a crunch European night against one of the continent’s giants – the clichéd European atmosphere under the lights and a departure from the hustled norm of the Premier league that has enduring appeal.

Not only does European football remain an irresistible product, but also genuine test of Manchester United’s place in world football – a team that few predicted could challenge on all fronts this season, but one that is outperforming all at home and abroad.

Indeed, Manchester United’s trip to Santiago Bernabéu to face Real Madrid on Wednesday night is, as Sir Alex Ferguson described it on Tuesday, the “acid test” of his team’s status. A test not only of United’s ability to compete against Europe’s best, but the Reds’ mental strength in what is likely to be a hugely pressurised atmosphere.

And while neither side is European Champion, and Madrid likely to acquiesce domestic hegemony this season, the are few who will reject the idea that United’s fixture with Madrid is not only the competition’s premier tie to date, but a clash between the world’s two most recognisable football clubs.

Yet, for all the perceived glamour United play in Madrid for the first time in almost a decade, with memories of a chastening 3-1 defeat at the Bernabéu in 2003 still fresh. Ferguson’s side triumphed in the return, only for Brazilian striker Ronaldo’s hat-trick at Old Trafford to prove decisive for Los Merengues.

Four years earlier and Real, sporting a teenage Ilker Cassilas and 22-year-old striker Raul, knocked the European champions out of the competition with a 3-2 victory at Old Trafford. On both occasions United had approached the opening leg in Madrid tentatively; on neither did Ferguson’s side progress, despite being widely regarded as favourites.

Once again United will start the double-header with Madrid in good form, although few pundits will assume Ferguson’s side is a banker for the tie despite Real’s damaging dressing-room politics. Once again one of Spain’s giants is inserted between Ferguson’s outfit and continental glory – and it hasn’t turned out well for the Scot in recent times.

Still, Ferguson remains defiant ahead of the match, with 71-year-old insistent this year’s United vintage is as good as any of his previous.

“Our team is capable of winning the Champions League,” said Sir Alex in Madrid on Tuesday.

“There is a great spirit about the players. People keep saying we’re not as good as past United teams but sometimes we get foggy impressions about the past and I do so myself at times. The reality is this team doesn’t know when it’s beaten which is a great quality. The acid test is tomorrow and we have to get through it if we are to win this trophy.”

Mourinho’s outfit begins the tie in decent form after hammering Sevilla 4-1 in Madrid last weekend. Cristiano Ronaldo’s 20th hat-trick during four productive years in Spain secured victory as the Spanish Champions cruised home more than 24 hours ahead of United’s weekend victory over Everton.

Fine form perhaps, and an additional rest for sure, yet dressing-room politics and a 16 point La Liga gap to Barcelona mean that this is likely to be the last campaign in which Mourinho commands the Spaniards. By contrast, Ferguson’s outfit travels not only in good form, having dispatched Everton last weekend, but amid a run of 14 matches without defeat since CFR Cluj emerged victorious from a dead-rubber group match last December.

“I think it’s a good time for us to be playing Real Madrid,” said Sir Alex.

“We have a fantastic lead in our league and we have everyone fit. When you come to this part of the season you [usually] have two or three players injured. We don’t have that, which is a bonus. We’re ready for tomorrow. Since the Champions League started, almost every year we have played one of the biggest clubs in the world.

“When I started as a coach many years ago, I dreamt I’d be playing against the top teams as a manager and you get the opportunity to do that in the Champions League on a regular basis. There is a special significance when you play the big teams and you’ll see that tomorrow. It’s just a shame we and Real are meeting this early. I wish it had been at Wembley, in the final.”

Real Madrid v Manchester United - Champions League, Santiago Bernabeu - 7.45pm 13 February 2013

Jones may be asked to mark Ronaldo, while Rooney will make up a five-man midfield. Elsewhere, Ferguson will choose between Rio Ferdinand and captain Nemanja Vidić in defence, while Michael Carrick and Tom Cleverley should start in central midfield. Paul Scholes is the only absent through injury and did not travel.

Formations aside, Ferguson may ask his players to take a less expansive approach than has become the norm this season, with the Reds seeking to hit Real on the break while soaking up Spanish pressure.

It is, after all, Real’s ability to counter-attack at pace that will be Ferguson’s principle concern. Madrid’s rapid transition from defence to attack, using Ronaldo’s pace and tendency to create space from broken play, remains the over-riding threat to the Reds’ progression.

“It won’t be 0-0 tomorrow night, I can assure you of that,” promised Ferguson, despite the likelihood of United deploying a conservative approach.

“This match can live up to expectations. History always plays a part in this type of game, as does the two teams’ desire to go forward. Real Madrid are one of the best counter-attacking teams in Europe. Their speed from box to box is fantastic. But we have to play our own game too. Our intention is to win and to score.”

Meanwhile, Mourninho remains under pressure to deliver a 10th European Cup to the Spanish capital. The imminent loss of last season’s hegemony to a resurgent Barcelona ensures that Real’s focus is squarely on Europe where Los Merengues boast a record of eight victories from the past nine home matches.

“It won’t be a disaster if we don’t win the Champions League,” said the former Chelsea coach.

“There are some great teams and coaches who never won it. Real Madrid want to win their tenth title and I want to win my third. I don’t want to finish my career with two.”

It is a sentiment with which Ferguson can agree. One will certainly be disappointed over the next three weeks of football.

Match details
Real Madrid v Manchester United – Champions League, Santiago Bernabéu – 7.45pm, 13 February 2013

Possible teams
Real (4-2-1-3): Lopez; Arbeloa, Pepe, Ramos, Coentrão; Alonso, Khedeira; Ozil; Di Maria, Benzema, Ronaldo; Subs from: Adán, Fernández, Varane, Rodríguez, Essien, Modrić, Callejón, Kaká, Morata, Higuaín.

United (4-2-3-1): De Gea; Rafael, Ferdinand, Evans, Evra; Valencia, Jones, Cleverley, Carrick, Rooney; van persie. Subs from: Lindegaard, Smalling, Vidić, Büttner, Anderson, Nani, Kagawa, Young , van Persie, Hernández, Giggs, Welbeck.

Match officials (GER)
Referee: Felix Brych
Assistant referees: Mark Borsch, Stefan Lupp
Additional assistant referees: Marco Fritz, Tobias Welz
Fourth official: Thorsten Schiffner

Form
Real Madrid: WDWDLW
United: WDWWWW

Head to Head
Last 10: Real 3, United 2, Draw 3
Overall: Real 3, United 2, Draw 3

Prediction
0-0

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  • Paul M

    I actually agree with Taggart about this. Because of having to travel, he’s only had Tuesday to train the squad really. Real have had Sun-Tue. Why don’t we adjust things to give our euro teams a better chance? More success there = more spots for english teams.

    And that’s why I think the training will have focussed on defensive drills; we DO have the quality to get at ‘em but we’ll play it safe for either a boredraw or restrict them to 1 or 2.

    I hope I’m wrong though!

  • Pikey McScum

    The second leg will be the one worth watching – I’d tend to agree about tonight being a cagey affair (at least from us)

  • bongz

    Perfect team for me…problem is the defensive line,I’m a fan of manchester united and little of real madid.real madrid have lost 4 times this season and three of those defeats came from teams at the wrong end of the table…if manchester united dare to press madrid very high(which I strongly doubt),we will get a real ass wooping because evra will be weak link from us.as much as he has be scoring,his defensive capabilties are weak,he will be easily beaten for pace either by cr7 or dimaria..if defend together as a unit,we would have a chance..weak link is PATRICE EVRA.

  • Mark

    I reckon the team selection appears about right, except I fancy Rooney to play central and Welbeck to start ahead of Clevz. If Fergie was going to be really brave, he may consider Kagawa ahead of Jones as well, however I can’t see that happening

    I hope he keeps faith with Evans, and doesn’t play it ‘safe’ with Rio/Vida. Would be a brave selection but the right one. This season Evans has earned his place, and is more suited to this game than Rio/Vida playing together.

  • Ed

    I reckon he’ll go with Vida and Evans. Rest of your predicted line-up looks spot on although I wouldn’t be massively surprised to see us go 4-4-2 with Kagawa in for Clevz

  • Mike

    For 10 years we have managed to avoid them. We will be embarrassed tonight. Boavista, Benfica and Cluj don’t compare.

  • marlon

    Think we’ll have Young in for Jones. Offensive line-up with a defensive set-up. 0-1 win and De Gea MOTM.

  • marlon
  • brianofnazareth

    Anyone else surprisingly not nervous about tonight? I’m actually looking forward to the game which is very unusual for me. Maybe because I’m half expecting to get a 3-0 going over.

  • Tommy

    brianofnazareth said:
    Anyone else surprisingly not nervous about tonight? I’m actually looking forward to the game which is very unusual for me. Maybe because I’m half expecting to get a 3-0 going over.

    I feel the same. I’m genuinely excited about this game. Not nervous, not dreading it, not worrying. Just excitement for what should be a great game. It helps that I’ve somehow convinced myself we’re going to win…

  • Bill

    The team we have to pick if we have any chance tonight:

    DDG
    RDS RF NV PE
    PJ MC
    AV TC WR
    RVP

    AV to help RDS with Ronaldo, with PJ in support. TC to help close down Alonso.

    2-1 loss would be a good result.

  • Fred

    Close down Alonso And united have a chance..

    2-1 united

  • marlon

    Ddg
    Raf rio Evans Evra
    Welbeck jones Carrick Kagawa
    Rooney rvp

  • uncleknobheadffs

    great news, valencias not playing

    bad news, neithers vidic, and jones is in midfield

    kagawas also playing for some reason, and welbeck

  • uncleknobheadffs

    we’ll struggle to get any good posession without cleverley in cm with carrick

  • Violent Banana

    De Gea; Rafael, Ferdinand, Evans, Evra; Carrick, Jones; Welbeck, Kagawa, Rooney; Van Persie

    Cleverley on the bench is a big surprise.

    Vidic not even on the bench.

  • marlon

    That’s why Welbeck and Kagawa are playing. Keep the ball higher up the pitch, like vs spurs

  • uncleknobheadffs

    we were second best against spurs for most of the game

  • Violent Banana

    We looked pretty solid against Spurs, and with Rooney in we’ve got plenty of counter attacking potential.

    Massive game for Kagawa; it’s time for him to deliver.

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    WTF??????? Why isn’t this on fuckin telly??? why isn’t this on itv??? Who the fuck is in charge of this ridiculousness??? The biggest game of the season on fuckin SKY shite…….. this is a fuckin crime, and someone should be fuckin shot…….

  • sidney

    The midfield, jesus christ

  • uncleknobheadffs

    tbf am gobsmacked hes left out vidic

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    uncleknobheadffs said:
    tbf am gobsmacked hes left out vidic

    We won’t lose this game from corners or high crosses… we’ll get done for pace.

  • marlon

    Vidic can’t play every few days since his surgery. Said so after he returned.

  • Bill

    Kagawa hasn’t played for ages! Sticking to my original 3-1 Real scoreline.

  • uncleknobheadffs

    sidney said:
    The midfield, jesus christ

    some job carricks got on here

    LKHF

    faffing

  • Fred

    clev should have started in kagawas place.hes played decent in most of uniteds big games this season

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Kagawa in the hole, Rooney on the left… I expect them 2 to swap about.

  • http://twitter.com/dosdamt Ben Hulston

    I was surprised to see Kagawa’s inclusion. It may indicate an “all out” mentality from United. And why not. Let’s give it a go. So much criticism here last season for United not going for it.

    And you know, if we go for it, and get beat, so what. We can get goals, we have quality up top, and if we don’t win – so what. Look at that Real team. It is unbelievable.

  • bman

    Right I’m up for this. Putting on my bicycle clips now so that nothing slips out when i shit my pants 5 minutes before the start.

  • marlon

    Kagawa will play on the left

    Police charging at United fans outside stadium apparently

  • sheesh

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    WTF??????? Why isn’t this on fuckin telly??? why isn’t this on itv??? Who the fuck is in charge of this ridiculousness??? The biggest game of the season on fuckin SKY shite…….. this is a fuckin crime, and someone should be fuckin shot…….

    ITV is eye-wateringly shit. It is one channel that should be taken off the air for being so bad.
    Don’t you get Sky Sports with those digiboxes you can get?
    Funny how the pundits are pitching us as rank outsiders as if we’ve never played competitive football in Europe before.

  • marlon

    Alonso and Ramos a card away from suspension. No united player is. Would be huge for the 2nd leg if we’re still in it.

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    This is one of those ties that can make converts out of non football fans.

    Come on you fuckers… win, lose, or draw… just make me proud.

  • brianofnazareth

    :gulp:

  • sidney

    We can do em

  • madmax

    I dont care if we lose. Just want us to give a proper game. Like the first 20 mins against Barcelona. Just play like that for the full game

  • brianofnazareth

    Agreed, lets just hold our own!

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    We won’t get any favours from this ref.

  • bman

    nice one, raf, shove him right out of it.

  • brianofnazareth

    Giving them way too much space around the box and they will punish us.

  • bman

    Welbeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeck

  • vlad

    One for the goal draught

  • bman

    great header!

  • Anantax

    Wellbeck is now officially forgiven for all his mostakesnthis seaosn! wonderful wonderful!

  • brianofnazareth

    Welbeck!!!

  • sidney

    Told you

    Madrid are faffing

  • vlad

    will be forgiven if we don’t sit back

  • bman

    Fuck’s sake, would De Gea care to catch one of these crosses?

  • bman

    Fuck that was a great header and all.

  • sidney

    Rooney screaming because there was no movement hwne he was on the ball

    Players just stood around ‘done my job’

    Pass, move ffs

  • brianofnazareth

    Shocking by Evra then. The best player on the pitch gets a free header.

    FFS.

  • bman

    Go ‘won, danny, this is your game.

  • bman

    Coentrao looks scared of Rooney.

  • captainhormone

    Shitcunt

  • brianofnazareth

    Someone get hold of Ozil!

    We’re starting to flap now!

  • bman

    Benzema looks like the weak link in their attack. I’m starting to pee myself a little bit every time Ozil touches the ball in our half.

  • brianofnazareth

    Need to get to half time pronto!

  • bman

    Roo seems to have shifted over to the left following Ronaldo.

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Crackin game…

  • bman

    Benzema is an amazingly soft shite for such a big lump of a lad.

  • Anantax

    We need Val to help out Rafa…switch Roo to left..

  • sidney

    1-1 isn’t too shabby

  • brianofnazareth

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    Crackin game…

    If love to be able to enjoy it!!

    I’ve been fine all build up but as soon as the kick off whistle went….doom! Lol

    Thank fuck it’s half time. Need to get a grip in midfield second half, get closer!

  • sheesh

    Rafael looks shaky as fuck. There were 2 or 3 different occasions where he’s had a chance to cut the ball out and conceded a throw in but he got done by the Madrid player. Our right side is a great big gaping gash waiting to be exploited. It wouldn’t surprise me if Rafael were to get sent off if he isn’t substituted first.
    I think we’ve shown Madrid far too much respect. We need to play to our strengths and really get them. They are shit at defending set pieces. We need the away goals so let’s have a proper go at them. If we sit back and fanny about, Madrid will tear us to pieces.
    Bollocks to caution, let’s roll our sleeves up and have a go at them.

  • marlon

    Commentary said Lindegaard was warming up first half. Hope ddg can stay on.

    Ramos should’ve had a yellow for the elbow. Would’ve been out of the next leg

    Evra was never going to win a header vs Ronaldo. A CB should’ve stepped up

  • uncleknobheadffs

    swap rooney and kagawa, then get kagawa off

    rafas dealing with two on his own there

  • bman

    Real are putting a lot of crosses in, maybe we would have been better off with Vida after all.

  • captainhormone

    Kagawful..copywrite capth

  • denton davey

    Good so far BUT UTD should hold onto the ball better and do a much, much better job of connecting midfield with forwards. Too often, the ball goes out and then comes right back.

    Not much NinjaEvra could do about CR7′s header – he slipped and Ronaldo read the pass much better.

    DannyTHeLad has done well but KagawaBunga has been pretty invisible because the defensive players can’t get the ball forward; RVP has been pretty awful and I’d consider bringing on Chicharito for him not just because he has a yellow card.

    In the second half, TheLads have to do a better job of keeping hold of the ball which seems pretty obvious, eh ?

    The away-goal is HUGE but it’s pretty important to shut up shop and keep them from scoring more.

    Going back to OT with a one-goal “advantage” would be pretty much the best we can hope for. I sure SAF would show us his sporran for that !

  • bman

    Might want to think about bringing Cleverley or Anderson on for Kagawa, because Kagawa’s not seeing too much action, and we could do with more energy and mobility in midfield. Raf also needs to calm down, I’m worried about him picking up a second yellow. Both of our full backs are really getting worked over tonight.

  • uncleknobheadffs

    nah persie has held onto the/ ball every time hes had it, superb cross for welbecks other chance an all, its kagawa whos been crap, and wayne tbf

  • sheesh

    2nd half is starting. Let’s fist them.

  • Anantax

    Rooney also been off tonit. But he’s the sort of player that can explode one moment and win you games…hope he improves…

  • captainhormone

    Wayne on right straight away..thank fuck

  • captainhormone

    Rvp is class

  • bman

    Think Real are certain to score again unless we change the pattern of this game.

  • han

    we will score from a corner again

  • sidney

    Brilliant from Jones that

  • brianofnazareth

    Why is out midfield standing and watching?

  • fred

    Carrick needs to get tighter on ozil

  • brianofnazareth

    Hit the fuckers!!! Standing off them is asking for trouble!

  • han

    is this referee related to that twat at celtic park last night?

  • bman

    Fucks sake, Fergie, change something before it’s too late.

  • sidney

    That’s fucked

    Rooney one was a yellow, Evra one was a red

  • bman

    You’re right, Alf, we’ll get nothing from this ref. He really bottled that foul on Evra.

  • captainhormone

    The ref is clearly a spastic

  • brianofnazareth

    Kagawa RELEASE the fucking ball you cunt!!!

  • captainhormone

    I detest Madrid and all thy stand for*spits*

  • captainhormone

    I detest Madrid and all thy stand for*spits*

  • bman

    I’m starting to find this extremely unpleasant viewing.

  • captainhormone

    DDg is the goalkeeping equivalent of Ronaldo..everyone thinks he’s a cunt but us
    Fuckers in the know, know he’s gonna be the best in the world when he matures
    Potentially similar scenario with welbeck
    Edited so the forum mongs know what I’m on about ffs

    LKHF

    faffing

  • brianofnazareth

    Tick tock…

    We need to wake up!

  • brianofnazareth

    Fair fucks to Danny Welgood ( see what I did there Cap?)

    He’s playing very well.

  • bman

    Maybe we should bring Giggs on for Kagawa. He’d provide more connection between midfield and attack, also a cool headed player.

  • fred

    giggs ffs.

  • captainhormone

    He’s potentially great

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    Thank fuck Kawasaki is off. Rubbish.

  • captainhormone

    Yeah, but Calvino is going to batter his missus tonight now giggs is on

    LKHF

    faffing

  • captainhormone

    Hey up danni you midlands Amsterdam hybrid cunt..got my iPhone 5 coming tomorrow

  • bman

    Wow I know Fergie’s mind better than he does himself.

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    Nice one, can you switch the spell checker off the cunt?

    Sent from my iPad

  • han

    if the score is level after 80 mins, expect them to throw the sink at us

  • sidney

    Standing ovation for Giggs when he came on

    G’won, Cal

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    han said:
    if the score is level after 80 mins, expect them to throw the sink at us

    Dude we are getting bummed already. Close!

  • fred

    Fuck fuck

  • brianofnazareth

    RVP should have scored

  • sidney

    Van…

  • han

    valencia on
    knobhead will be banging cap’n tonight for sure

  • bman

    how do RVP not bury that????????????

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    Pleased that Valencia is one. He may be a one dimensional guff but at least he’s a hard bastard.

    They have too much power. They look fitter and stronger. We look beat.

  • fred

    ozil arse raping united

  • bman

    Rooney is working hard, but his passing has been poor this match.

  • sidney

    De Gea, masterful

  • brianofnazareth

    De Gea is immense!!

  • bman

    Giggs. Legend.

  • captainhormone

    han said:
    valencia on
    knobhead will be banging cap’n tonight for sure

    You don’t learn do you gluedick

  • sidney

    Giggs, fucking ace

  • han

    captainhormone said:
    You don’t learn do you gluedick

    obviously not
    learn me some manners big bad boss

  • bman

    Valencia lets the ball go out. What a fucking dick.

  • captainhormone

    han said:
    obviously not
    learn me some manners big bad boss

    As thom Yorke so beautifully sang on the bends..”you do it to yourself you do..and that’s what really hurts…..”

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    One trick pony Valencia but a hard cunt. Nice touch.

  • han

    captainhormone said:
    As thom Yorke so beautifully sang on the bends..”you do it to yourself you do..and that’s what really hurts…..”

    oh come off it neil
    u love it really

  • captainhormone

    han said:
    oh come off it neil
    u love it really

    Que????

    Lololol

  • captainhormone

    Ffs Anderson you shit haired bastard

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    Great stuff from Madrid.

  • captainhormone

    Phil jones is going to be a great

  • captainhormone

    See

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Jones was awesome tonight.

  • captainhormone

    Ref..match fixing bonus doubt there you cunt??

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    Ah yes Anderson I remember him. Guess the forum spastics are still wanking off his you tube video.

    Don’t be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people’s thinking.
    Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions drown out your own inner voice – Steven Jobs

  • han

    all set for 3 weeks now

  • bman

    UNbelievable, the ref really is on the take.

  • sidney

    1-1, get in

    We can knock em out no worries

  • fred

    Nazi cunt ref

  • captainhormone

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    Jones was awesome tonight.

    He will be a united lynchpin for the next decade or so

    Kudos to rvp and the goalie equivalent of cr7

  • bman

    captainhormone said:
    Ref..match fixing bonus doubt there you cunt??

    Too right, that was fucking ridiculous.

  • captainhormone

    danniitronix said:
    Ah yes Anderson I remember him. Guess the forum spastics are still wanking off his you tube video.

    He’s the next ronaldinho you know danni

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Good game… good result… played in a good spirit… Ronny coming back to OT… all to play for… cannae fuckin wait.

  • sidney

    The knobhead, blowing during the corner
    Tbf they might have hit us on the counter
    I told you not to worry

  • captainhormone

    Bring on mighty reading I say

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    Ref was fine for the continent. Could have been worse.

  • captainhormone

    Now..where’s my rum

    Cuba libre time methinks

  • Anantax

    GREAT result!! All to play for in OT…

    Jones, DDG has been absolutely awesome! RVP also been good…his ball skills are silky smooth

    kagawa Rooney were off tonight….Rafa concerning but stabilized in 2nd half…

  • sheesh

    An acceptable result but, fuck me, I hope we don’t play that chess match bollocks at Old Trafford. I can see that we played cautiously because they’re one of the best counter-attacking sides in Europe and we needed to make sure we had something to take to the 2nd leg but that Real Madrid defence is shite.
    Rooney was fucking shocking.
    That said, we should have won it in the end.

  • brianofnazareth

    Great performance from Welbeck, De Gea and Jones!

    Also thought RVP done his job and Giggs done well when he came on.

    Cal?

  • sidney

    The return leg is in March ffs

    The arse will have fallen out of the tie

  • marlon

    Welbeck and DDG were immense

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    captainhormone said:
    He’s the next ronaldinho you know danni

    Just a mixture of being blind and stupid and arguing for the sake of it. He is shit and should get the crap beaten out of him.

    Oh but yes he takes time to develop?! Same as Bebebongo. Dreadlocked spliffy bustaklaart.

    Kagawaga. What a load of fanny batter. He should be shot and made into burgers.

  • captainhormone

    Welbeck, de gea and jones all young…ffs you cunts slagging them should be ashamed

    Ffs..21 yo on average..some of yous cunts were still trying to get laid at that age

    Some still are!

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    brianofnazareth said:
    Great performance from Welbeck, De Gea and Jones!

    Also thought RVP done his job and Giggs done well when he came on.

    Cal?

    Giggs was shit you blind twat.

  • uncleknobheadffs

    evans was

    captainhormone said:
    Welbeck, de gea and jones all young…ffs you cunts slagging them should be ashamed

    Ffs..21 yo on average..some of yous cunts were still trying to get laid at that age

    Some still are!

    evans was fantastic an all

    seems to be him plus one at the back in taggarts eyes, fair play

  • uncleknobheadffs

    brianofnazareth said:
    Great performance from Welbeck, De Gea and Jones!

    Also thought RVP done his job and Giggs done well when he came on.

    Cal?

    hes got the fucking lot, its obvious

    this is what happens when he plays up front, or not stuck to the byline atleast

  • captainhormone

    Yeah..Evans was great too..but he’s at that age where he’s justifying it..those 3 others are kids and all these forum footballing greats slagging kids know fuck all about the game

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    DDG is quality. Skinny little fucker, looks like a gay and has a gay name. Fucker is lightening fast. Watch how fast the cunt moves!

    Kawasaki is supposed to be a shit slick but he is a slower than a 3 day constipated turd. DDG is faster than a Bugatti Bruce Lee Bolt.

  • Anantax

    Agree Giggs was shit…

    On another note..RVP needs a rest. I bet Hernandz starts vs Reading…

  • captainhormone

    Leek reds…Jono!! Get in brother!!

  • Pikey McScum

    Fucking delighted with that result.

    And delighted that de Gea was able to stick two fingers up to all the doubters, because THAT was special

  • captainhormone

    Anantax said:
    Agree Giggs was shit…

    On another note..RVP needs a rest. I bet Hernandz starts vs Reading…

    Me and alf up top could start against reading ffs

  • captainhormone

    Pikey McScum said:
    Fucking delighted with that result.

    And delighted that de Gea was able to stick two fingers up to all the doubters, because THAT was special

    Hi sweetheart..you ok?

  • marlon

    Van Persie should’ve won it. Welbeck could’ve had one too.

    Varane and Ramos should’ve been sent off. Did they even get a yellow?

  • Denton Davey

    I thought that SAF could have brought on Chicharito for RVP instead of Anderson for Rooney – the only time Anderson touched the ball he immediately gave it away to Modric (the AshleyBloodyYoung of RM). Overall, a very good result – a very different result if RVP had hit that ball full-on rather than bouncing it for Alonso to clear off the line. Anyhow, MrJones and DDG did their jobs well, LittleRedRafa was not quite on-song and a bit reckless but he pretty much handled CR7 but got skinned by Fabio Coentrao a couple of times. The central pairing of Rio/Evans was very good too. SO, overall, job done. Now to attend to the bum squeaks.

  • madredmonkey

    Great result, got to be happy with a 1-1 draw, good performance, were in with a great chance now.

  • uncleknobheadffs

    what did giggs do wrong apart from fluff the chance

    that bit where he made that challenge in the box and then skinned arbeloa was great

  • captainhormone

    uncleknobheadffs said:
    what did giggs do wrong apart from fluff the chance

    that bit where he made that challenge in the box and then skinned arbeloa was great

    Ignore the sycophants

  • sheesh

    Pikey McScum said:
    Fucking delighted with that result.

    And delighted that de Gea was able to stick two fingers up to all the doubters, because THAT was special

    It annoys me that Van Persie should have scored. The tie is still so finely balanced. There were positives from tonight’s performance but there’s still a lot to do.

  • uncleknobheadffs

    persies miss was horrendous tbf

    like that fucking sitter that knocked arsenal out to milan last year

    he’ll score in the 2nd eg tho

  • captainhormone

    We will win at to 2-1

  • madredmonkey

    Cant wait for the game at Old Trafford.

  • captainhormone

    oT…ffs

  • madredmonkey

    Buzzing.

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    uncleknobheadffs said:
    what did giggs do wrong apart from fluff the chance

    that bit where he made that challenge in the box and then skinned arbeloa was great

    That is all that he did. Otherwise he was shit, average tackles, average passes, average vision, average crosses and plain old average energy.

    He’s busted up. One decent game a month and that is all. He was dead by the end and he was only on for 15 mins. Legend yes – old and only occasionally useful – also yes.

    He does yoga though so that’s ok.

  • marlon

    Van Persie missed the most clear cut chances in the league last year. Still manages to score plenty

  • captainhormone

    Xabi alonso…my beard is better than yours you cunt!

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    sidney said:
    The return leg is in March ffs

    The arse will have fallen out of the tie

    Nah… The build up of “the return of Ronaldo”, will stoke the fire… it’s going to be a classic.

  • Pikey McScum

    captainhormone said:
    Hi sweetheart..you ok?

    I miss your musk…

  • han

    captainhormone said:
    Xabi alonso…my beard is better than yours you cunt!

    aye but his isn’t made up of his pubes

  • Pikey McScum

    uncleknobheadffs said:
    what did giggs do wrong apart from fluff the chance

    that bit where he made that challenge in the box and then skinned arbeloa was great

    ^^^THIS!

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Anantax said:

    On another note..RVP needs a rest. I bet Hernandz starts vs Reading…

    Yeah, I’d go along with that.

  • captainhormone

    han said:
    aye but his isn’t made up of his pubes

    All beards are pubes you thick gay cunt

  • han

    captainhormone said:
    All beards are pubes you thick gay cunt

    now now
    play nicely
    we had a great result and you want to go and spoil it all by being spiteful about homos

  • captainhormone

    Han..you really are a top class bender in the biblical sense.

    Out!

  • http://twitter.com/dosdamt Ben Hulston

    Rooney did exactly what other top players, and other teams, won’t do – he put in a shift, out of position, for the betterment of the team. The only other Manager at the top level who gets players to do that? Mourinho – Inter Milan, Sami Eto’o.

    That’s why our team is always much better than the sum of it’s parts – because players believe in a cause, and they work and know their roles. Chelsea always look like a group of strangers milling around. City win because they have utterly brilliant players in each position. Not because they’re a good team, this season has shown they’re probably far from it. They’re not in it together.

    I have to say, I enjoyed today, mostly because it should surely shut up a load of critics and pundit mongs, and it is nice to see other drongos who support other sides with a little stfu – so many times I’ve heard “you’s are gonna get stuffed, etc”.

    You know what, yes, this isn’t a vintage, gung ho, cavalier United. But it’s a team, a real *team*. And that’s brilliant.

    I’m not expecting anything from the nexet game, just another good team performance, and we’ll see what happens.

    • Dean Jackson

      Well said fella

    • gabagool

      Correct.
      Although some tits on here won’t be happy unless we’re scoring six a game.

  • han

    captainhormone said:
    Han..you really are a top class bender in the biblical sense.

    Out!

    i will never leave rant
    i will haunt you for eons to come

    actually if we win the title this season, i will stand down and call it a day
    so start praying with your mob and put me out of my misery

  • han

    captainhormone said:
    All beards are pubes you thick gay cunt

    that is just plain wrong
    where did you learn biology?

  • captainhormone

    Han..tbf mate..you ain’t that important to me so if you stay or go I really..really do not give a flying fuck..

    If we won the league lost it or got relegated you could do what the fuck you want and I’d not lose a second of sleep

    Howeve,..if I lost knobhead..Bri, pikey, alf, cal, etc I’d need valium

  • Anantax

    captainhormone said:
    Me and alf up top could start against reading ffs

    The two of you can start a whole load of shit…but can yer finish?

  • captainhormone

    ..add herbie to that list too

  • captainhormone

    Anantax said:
    The two of you can start a whole load of shit…but can yer finish?

    Tbf I’m a fat Paul scholes..but I’d score a minimum f 1 out of 3

  • madredmonkey

    without Han , what have we got left.

  • captainhormone

    madredmonkey said:
    without Han , what have we got left.

    Who’s Han?

  • han

    captainhormone said:
    Han..tbf mate..you ain’t that important to me so if you stay or go I really..really do not give a flying fuck..

    If we won the league lost it or got relegated you could do what the fuck you want and I’d not lose a second of sleep

    Howeve,..if I lost knobhead..Bri, pikey, alf, cal, etc I’d need valium

    no worries
    have a good evening

  • madredmonkey

    captainhormone said:
    Who’s Han?

    GOD ,HIMSELF.

  • Anantax

    Rooney worked hard yes. But a player of his calibre still should have done better on his frist touch and passing. Some of his first touches were literally painful to watch…

    Must give shout out to Rio and Evans. They were really solid.

  • Pikey McScum

    captainhormone said:
    Han..tbf mate..you ain’t that important to me so if you stay or go I really..really do not give a flying fuck..

    If we won the league lost it or got relegated you could do what the fuck you want and I’d not lose a second of sleep

    Howeve,..if I lost knobhead..Bri, pikey, alf, cal, etc I’d need valium

    I’m so emotional right now…! *swoon*

  • sidney

    Fergie got in a dig at Messi saying couldn’t have scored Ronnie’s header. Very true.

    Ron was in the United dressing room after the game n all.

  • captainhormone

    sidney said:
    Fergie got in a dig at Messi saying couldn’t have scored Ronnie’s header. Very true.

    Ron was in the United dressing room after the game n all.

    If he was 6 ft 3 he could

  • uncleknobheadffs

    he scored better headers than that for us tbf

    Ben Hulston said:
    Rooney did exactly what other top players, and other teams, won’t do – he put in a shift, out of position, for the betterment of the team. The only other Manager at the top level who gets players to do that? Mourinho – Inter Milan, Sami Eto’o.

    That’s why our team is always much better than the sum of it’s parts – because players believe in a cause, and they work and know their roles. Chelsea always look like a group of strangers milling around. City win because they have utterly brilliant players in each position. Not because they’re a good team, this season has shown they’re probably far from it. They’re not in it together.

    I have to say, I enjoyed today, mostly because it should surely shut up a load of critics and pundit mongs, and it is nice to see other drongos who support other sides with a little stfu – so many times I’ve heard “you’s are gonna get stuffed, etc”.

    You know what, yes, this isn’t a vintage, gung ho, cavalier United. But it’s a team, a real *team*. And that’s brilliant.

    I’m not expecting anything from the nexet game, just another good team performance, and we’ll see what happens.

    all well and good but weve got plenty of other players who put in a shift on the wing, weve got no one who plays off the striker as good as him, kagawa was again shite

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    sidney said:
    Fergie got in a dig at Messi saying couldn’t have scored Ronnie’s header. Very true.

    Ron was in the United dressing room after the game n all.

    Now that, is classic Ferguson mind games at work… he knows that Ronaldo has been hurting because he feels he doesn’t get the support from Real, that Messi gets from Barca…

  • sheesh

    I pretty much agreed with Fergie’s comments in that post-match interview. So maybe the way we played in that first half wasn’t tactical at all.
    That 2nd leg seems like an eternity away…

  • http://twitter.com/dosdamt Ben Hulston

    True Unc, but I wouldn’t have trusted Young to do that. Maybe Valencia.

    Fergie has his go to guy, it’s Rooney. Because Rooney works, and is positionally excellent, physically excellent, and being fair can still have an influence on the game. Maybe Fergie was expecting us to see a little more of the ball, and let Rooney come more central. I don’t think we’ll see a huge system change at home, I do think Cleverley will probably come in for Kagawa, and we’ll see Rooney more central to try and exert influence on the game, and pressurise Alonso

  • Snoopcousins

    Deck that was nervy…even more so coz I’m going to OT for the 2nd leg and wanted it to be game on…which it now is!
    In no way are we a classic Man Utd team, too many average players and not enough world class players…BUT….there’s something awesome watching some of our younger players grow some Bollox and prove me and others wrong…de Gea will prob hav another few shit games but he could be the difference in big Champions League games, there’s no doubt he has some class, just needs to grow into the PL.
    I pray Fergie has a few years left in him coz I think without him we wouldn’t hav the same bolloxness and team spirit

  • marlon

    Hope Fergie (or whoever) isn’t saying in 4/5 years time, at least we had DDG for 6 years, like we are with Ronaldo. Apparently Barca have got a deal for ter Stegen so that’s at least one less team in the market.

  • bman

    I’d have much preferred a 2-2 result to 1-1. Now if Real score first at OT, we’re back to square one.

  • sheesh

    Was that de Gea’s best performance in a United shirt? Possibly.

    He was MOTM, I thought.

  • bman

    The media criticising Rafael are getting on my nerves. Yeah he had a very tough game and got a yellow card, but he was playing against some of the best attacking players in the world. The fact that Ronaldo moved away from him to find easier prey suggests to me that Rafael got the better of their duel, otherwise why wouldn’t Ronaldo stay on him and try to capitalise on his yellow? Raf then played the whole second half on a caution against the likes of Ronaldo, Ozil, and whathisname the Argentinean winger — that’s proof of discipline and maturity to me.

    Did he have a tough time of it? Sure he did, but who wouldn’t have a tough time against problem the best wide-playing attacking team in the world? I’ve seen him play better, but overall I thought he did well, and he was probably a bit drained after playing the full game against Everton.

  • uncleknobheadffs

    they overloaded that side three v one, wayne did a shit job of helping, taggart then swapped him and welbeck to get to half time and rafa was fine from then on

    did get skinned badly a couple of times in the first half though

  • Anantax

    Rafa, if anything, was too rash, too committing, in the first 30 mins. Tbf didnt have much help

    In 2nd half he was far better…

    Think worst Utd players of the day were Kagawa, Giggs and Rooney.

  • Violent Banana

    What a fucking brilliant result.

  • captainhormone

    Cleverly will be in at OT with carrick and scholes

  • dozer

    United must play 4-4-2 at OT.
    Regardless of how the efficient the 4-3-3/4-5-1 is, United have always been comfortable with their regular formation and they’ve beaten all big teams this way.
    Let Real adjust to United’s strengths at OT. United have the stronger team. United should just go with their regular team and trust the players to do well.
    Rafael has had a bad game but I’d still pick him at right back. He’s old enough and he’s performed well enough this season to be entrusted with this task.

    Sir Ryan Giggs? No no no. Sir Paul Scholes say.

    • fred

      A united 4-4-2 would invite a proper fucking at the hands of reading let alone real

  • dozer

    ^^^^ Err… the match is already over folks. What’s with the predicted lineups for ‘tonight’?

    Sir Ryan Giggs? No no no. Sir Paul Scholes say.

  • steggo

    Not sure what Kagawa gives the team.He looks a little light weight to me.

  • uncleknobheadffs

    he shouldnt play the second leg, especially not when it moves rooney out of position

  • uncleknobheadffs

    rons performance was exactly the same as in the 08 final, same goal, same great first half an anonymous second yet he got slaughtered for that game as a big game bottler and hes getting lavish praise now

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Commenter said:
    Correct.
    Although some tits on here won’t be happy unless we’re scoring six a game.

    Speaking of tits… yours still giving you back ache?

  • sidney

    The lack of shit talking before yesterday’s game tells you how close Fergie and Mourinho are
    They’re both being respectful post match n all, it’s weird, especially when you think this is Mourinho’s Madrid career on the line

  • uncleknobheadffs

    hes gagging for taggarts job tbf

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    He is… when Ferguson packs it in, it will become the highest profile managers job in world sport… and Mourinho would kill to be “The Boss”.

  • Pikey McScum

    I still think there’s something in Guardiola’s three year contract at Bayern.

    But that’s neither here nor there, and I won’t leave myself open to accusations of thread spamming by changing topic!

  • bman

    uncleknobheadffs said:
    hes gagging for taggarts job tbf

    I agree, and I think Fergie’s playing a bit of a blinder there. I’m not convinced he really admires Mourinho as much as he lets on, but Mourinho can’t afford to get aggro with him as he knows Ferg will probably get to choose his successor. But Mourinho is at his best when he’s balls to the wall and creating an apocalyptic siege mentality with his players. This appearance of a mutual love fest will probably do Real no favours in getting tooled up psychologically for the OT match, especially because they’re just sitting on their arses with nothing to play for domestically. The long break before the return match might help us, so long as key players don’t get crocked.

  • bman

    The thing that gives me the most optimism is that our two most talented players — RVP and Roo — both had average nights in Madrid. It’s not likely that both will be so subdued in the return leg.

  • captainhormone

    I think the return leg is a perfect opportunity for us to give some of our senior players a rest.

    I’d play

    Lindegaard

    Smalling vidic Jones buttner

    Anderson. Scholes giggs

    Young hernadez Valencia

  • uncleknobheadffs

    i like that side, apart from the keeper the midfield the wingers and buttshite

  • http://www.google.com Sounder22

    Long time listener, first time poster.
    I’m sick of the media having a go a Raf too. At halftime I couldn’t stop thinking about Bayern a couple of seasons back but as soon as he made his first challenge in the second half I knew he was good for it. Gonna be ace that lad

  • bman

    captainhormone said:
    I think the return leg is a perfect opportunity for us to give some of our senior players a rest.

    I’d play

    Lindegaard

    Smalling vidic Jones buttner

    Anderson. Scholes giggs

    Young hernadez Valencia

    I assume this is a wind-up.

  • Pikey McScum

    bman said:
    I assume this is a wind-up.

    Like a greyhound out of the traps

  • Pikey McScum

    Welcome mate, you seem nice unlike some of the deplorable cunts here

  • captainhormone

    Pikey McScum said:
    Like a greyhound out of the traps

    Hehe

  • bman

    I think SAF was going to play the following:

    – DDF
    Raf – Rio – Evans – Evra
    – Cleverly – Carrick
    Welb – Roo – Giggs
    - RVP

    After today’s game, he might try:

    – DDG
    Raf – Rio – Evans – Evra
    – Giggs – Carrick
    Welb – Kagawa – Roo
    – RVP

    RVP’s having a bit of a dip, but you’ve got to play him surely. I’m assuming Jones is not available.

  • marlon

    Kagawa won’t start and given the role Jones played last game, there’s no way Giggs starts at CM. Seems Cleverley and Welbeck were rested and are likely to start. Giggs/Young/Nani could all get a start, but I think Jones will be available and Cleverley will play higher up in the 3. Also if Fergie wants Welbeck to do the same job as last time, then van Persie will be deeper too.
    So:
    Jones – Carrick
    Cleverley – Rooney – van Persie
    Welbeck
    If Jones isn’t available, I’d go with your first team. Kagawa was impressive in the middle, but if Welbeck is pressuring up top, then to accommodate Kagawa, both Rooney and van Persie would be pushed wide. Can’t see it happening.

  • uncleknobheadffs

    nani will play

  • bman

    I’m pretty sure Giggs will play.

  • Anantax

    What killed Barca in the cup was the counterattacking. I think fergie will keep it tight while conservatively probing forward..

    kagawa might very well play.. In the form he was last night he adds cunning to our attacking play

    Gven that I would be tempted to say Nani Giggs on the wings, but Val is just much better at tracking back.

  • RobDiablo

    Defending against the counter is vital, but, unless we believe that United will keep a clean sheet, so is outscoring Real Madrid. I’d go with something like this:

    DdG
    Rafael/Rio/Evans/Evra
    Jones/Carrick (Valencia if Jones can’t make it)
    Nani/Rooney/Welbeck
    RvP

  • sidney

    Fergie’s right saving Giggs for Madrid. It will give us a psychological boost. He got a standing ovation at the Bernabau and he’ll get another one at Old Trafford. It will make the game about him, us, not about Ronnie or Madrid. People on forums don’t rate this sort of psychological and emotional stuff because it’s all about formations and tactics and boring shit. But it’s a wise move.
    I also like how the press are a bit miffed after they all paid for photos and footage of Giggs from the archives in anticipation that he would play against Norwich – and then he didn’t.

  • uncleknobheadffs

    RobDiablo said:
    I’d go with something like this:

    DdG
    Rafael/Rio/Evans/Evra
    Jones/Carrick
    Nani/Rooney/Welbeck
    RvP

    is correct

  • Anantax

    Reading in BbC that SAF saying Giggs and Kagawa will definitely be involved…

    Can all be mind gmes of course…

  • marlon

    ‘Involved’ just means in the 18.

    Casillas is in the Madrid squad for our game

  • ltel

    uncleknobheadffs said:
    is correct

    jones is out.. id maybe like to see Anderson in his place..

  • Dinkinflicker

    I have a feeling that the side he puts out will look something like this:

    DDG
    Rafael Rio Evans Evra
    Carrick Cleverly
    Welbeck Kagawa Rooney
    RVP

    Rooney on the left is a certainty.

  • RobDiablo

    ltel said:
    jones is out.. id maybe like to see Anderson in his place..

    Anderson is unreliable—there’s no way of knowing which version will show up; we don’t need the one who started Saturday against Norwich. I’d put Valencia in Jones’s place alongside Carrick. We know he can defend as well as go forward when opportunities present themselves.
    @Dinkinflicker
    I’d have no problem with the squad you proposed if you’d replace Cleverley with Valencia. United need to find just the right balance between attack and defending against the counter, which means a midfield pairing that can defend first and foremost. Carrick and Cleverley are two of the same kind of player, while Valencia is a very strong defender and would make the partnership a mixture of guile and passing plus power and pace.

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    ltel said:
    jones is out.. id maybe like to see Anderson in his place..

    I wouldn’t even put Anderson on the bench… that cunt can play, but only when he feels like it… fuck him… had enough.

  • captainhormone

    ltel said:
    jones is out.. id maybe like to see Anderson in his place..

    You sick bastard

  • bman

    Giggs will be in the middle with Carrick, I’m sure of it.

  • RobDiablo

    bman said:
    Giggs will be in the middle with Carrick, I’m sure of it.

    I could only see that pairing starting in midfield if Rafa and Evra were instructed not to venture into the opposition half of the pitch, and, even then, it wouldn’t work.

  • sheesh

    captainhormone said:
    You sick bastard

    No thanks, tel.

  • uncleknobheadffs

    with giggs in cm we’ll get overrun and wont be able to keep the ball but will probably score from him creating something, so itll be wembley all over again

    if its not jones it obviously has to be cleverley

  • ltel

    Anderson is great at holding onto the ball and bring it 20/30 yards upfield.. I think we will need that.. passes well, gets stuck in and hes full of running..

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    ltel said:
    Anderson is great at holding onto the ball and bring it 20/30 yards upfield.. I think we will need that.. passes well, gets stuck in and hes full of running..

    “gets stuck in and hes full of running”

    Eh???

  • RobDiablo

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    “gets stuck in and hes full of running”
    Eh???

    He gets stuck in narrow doorways because he’s full of burgers.

  • Pikey McScum

    I think he meant full of KFC

  • uncleknobheadffs

    tbf hes cack

    give up tel hes not gonna make it

  • sheesh

    ltel said:
    Anderson is great at holding onto the ball and bring it 20/30 yards upfield.. I think we will need that.. passes well, gets stuck in and hes full of running..

    If he was playing well, like he was at the start of the season, I would agree with you. Unfortunately, he plays shit when he comes back from injury (and he’s had a few injuries during his time at United) and it takes him forever to get into any sort of form….then he gets injured again.

    He was pretty shit at the weekend.

  • sheesh

    What a game. Ronaldo was some player, wasn’t he? They had some class players tbf.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0QiX2KgiV8

  • sheesh

    Wouldn’t surprise me if Rooney was dropped tomorrow. Just got a funny feeling he might not start.

  • uncleknobheadffs

    big rons right about that first goal

  • Anantax

    sheesh said:
    What a game. Ronaldo was some player, wasn’t he? They had some class players tbf.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0QiX2KgiV8

    Damn i remember watching that game on the telly. Horrible brcause we were losing but awesome due to Ronaldo’s awesomeness

    Hope the other ronaldo doesnt cause us similar pain….

  • Ichiro

    DdG
    Rafael/Rio/Evans/Evra
    Cleverley/Carrick
    Nani/Rooney/Kagawa
    RvP

    Lad scored a hat trick, what more does he have to do? He and Rooney are really starting to click.

  • RobDiablo

    Ichiro said:
    Lad scored a hat trick, what more does he have to do? He and Rooney are really starting to click.

    I have no problem with Kagawa, but if, as he did against Norwich, he drifts into the center, then Evra is more exposed when Real counter. Norwich didn’t have the players to take advantage, but Real do. On the other hand, if he doesn’t drift into the center, he won’t be of much use. So either swap him with Rooney: Kagawa behind RvP and Rooney on the wing or, better yet, go with Nani/Rooney/Welbeck—Welbeck is bigger, faster, and stronger than Kagawa.

    Knowing that United will almost certainly need to score two or more goals to win, I can understand why people are proposing lineups that feature our best attacking players, but I don’t see a Carrick/Cleverley midfield as being defensive enough to keep from being overrun by Real. Cleverley is probably a bit faster than he appears and will run his socks off, but he isn’t a tackler and is prone to being caught in possession or rushed into risky passes when pressed hard, as I would expect Real to do. He may suck as a winger this season, but Valencia is the man to take Jones’s place, not Cleverley.

  • captainhormone

    There will be faffing

    DDg

    Rafa rio vidic Vera

    Valencia carrick cleverly giggs

    Rooney. Rvp

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    This has the potential to be one of the truly great games… so why do I have the feeling, Ferguson is going to try and choke the life out of it, and go for a 1-0 ground out result???

  • captainhormone

    Agreed…faffing ahoy

  • http://www.newhallmedialtd.com Calvino

    Alf,
    do you want a great game or do you want us to go through? I could not give a flying fart if it is a borefest as long as we go through. To hell with atmosphere and the rest I just want us to go through because I believe if we get past this lot we shall get to the final as no other team left has the pedigree to touch us.

    You all seem to ignore what Welbeck gives us. Jones being out is a big big miss!! Valencia to play infield alongside Carrick and Cleverly with Rooney and Welbeck either side of van Persie.

  • ltel

    I think munich would disagree with you cal.. they look like the team to beat this year.. Schweinsteiger and Martinez are fantastic in the middle for them.. alaba is probably the best left back out there and we al know what they are like in the attacking department.

  • bman

    Real are the consensus favourites and I’m shitting myself now already, but at the risk of jinxing things, I wouldn’t be that surprised if we give them a bit of a thrashing. After all there’s a reason why they’re not in contention in their domestic league. If Fergie gets the line-up and tactics right and the lads put in a strong performance, I could see us beating them with 2 or 3 goals, with Ronaldo giving them a consolation goal. If Rooney and RVP both manage to have a good game for once (it always seems to be one or the other), then we’re definitely going to hurt them at the back. That’s the key for me — if they both spark we’re going to score more than once for sure. At the back, I’m confident that the lads will put a good shift in.

  • bman

    Jones not being available seems like a big loss, but someone like Cleverley playing in his place might be a blessing in disguise by giving us more fluidity and creativity in the middle. We’re playing at home after all. I still think Ferg will play Carrick and Giggs in the middle, with Kag, Roo, Welb, and RVP on the sides and front.

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Cleverly has been shit lately.

  • Pikey McScum

    Call him Thomas damn you!!!