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Preview: United v Reading

February 18, 2013 Tags: , Matches 86 comments

There was a moment during the chaos of Manchester United’s Premier League fixture with Reading in December that a 4-3 scoreline looked not only unlikely, but preposterous. The two sides would surely score far more than that. Yet, amid two of the worst defensive performances of the current se ason, the sides conspired to see out a goalless second period after seven were struck in the first.

The sides meet in different circumstances on Monday night with an FA Cup quarter final place at stake. Neither likely to defend with such apathy at Old Trafford, even if each has greater priorities in the season ahead.

United, far from fresh after draining encounters against Everton and Real Madrid in the past week, will be much changed. Meanwhile, the visitors’ manager Brian McDermott is likely to prioritise league points with Reading still in the drop zone.

Still, United’s handsome Premier league lead, allied to a positive result in Madrid last Wednesday, ensures that talk of another treble is now rife. Too early, perhaps, but with United in a strong position on three fronts manager Sir Alex Ferguson’s challenge is as much to set expectations for the season to come, as it is a motivational driver.

“I just look at the next match, thinking about winning the next match,” said Ferguson, who may change his entire team for Reading’s visit.

“The reality is don’t get carried away by it, particularly in the FA Cup, anything can happen. You don’t want to be a shock, that’s for sure.

“So Monday, in many people’s eyes, it’s Reading: ‘Yeah, we’ve just been to Madrid, it was a great night and Monday will take care of itself.’ Monday can’t take of itself. We have to take care of it, we have to have performance which respects our opponents and the fact that the FA Cup can produce shocks.”

Manchester United v Reading - FA Cup, Old Trafford - 8pm, 18 February 2013Ferguson will certainly rest forwards Wayne Rooney and Robin van Persie, although the Dutchman has seemingly asked to be involved against Reading.

Meanwhile, with Paul Scholes still suffering from a knee injury and Michael Carrick due a rest, both Anderson and Tom Cleverley could start at Old Trafford. Forwards Nani, Ashley Young and Javier Hernández will rotate into the side.

Goalkeeper Anders Lindegaard could come into the side, although the Danish international was a principle culprit in United shipping three against Reading earlier in the campaign.

Whatever the changes on Monday, Ferguson believes his squad is well equipped to challenge, especially with the quarter-final carrot of a match at home to Chelsea on offer.

“The incentive is there to get to the quarter-finals and I don’t think that will be lost on the players, no matter what side I pick,” added the 71-year-old.

“We’re taking nothing for granted. With an FA Cup tie, you always have to expect the unexpected. It happens so many times, you just don’t want to be a casualty or a shock. We’ve had a few over the years.

“I think there’s a good spirit in the place and they’re all contributing,” he said. “Whatever side I pick, I know we’re expected to qualify.

“That’s what happens with United. It doesn’t matter what team you play, you’re expected to win. But I couldn’t be more pleased than I am at the moment really with the form and the spirit in the place.”

Meanwhile, Reading make the trip north with Premier League status the season’s only real priority, although the Royals arrive in the side’s best form of the season, having lost just one match in the past seven.

The Berkshire side scored four against United in December, with McDermott’s side repeatedly punishing the Reds’ inability to deal with balls delivered from wide areas. Yet, Reading’s adventure at the Madjesky may not be repeated at Old Trafford, especially with McDermott’s side due to take on fellow strugglers Wigan Athletic next Saturday.

Midfielders Jimmy Kebe and Mikele Leigertwood are doubts with injury and unlikely to be risked. Adam Le Fondre and Noel Hunt could start, but veteran Jason Roberts and Alex McCarthy are definitely out.

And if Reading arrive at Old Trafford with alternate priorities, then there is also a risk of McDermott’s side being caught in the headlights. It is a risk exposed in McDermott’s obsequious sycophancy this week.

“Sir Alex Ferguson won’t take anything for granted, there’s no doubt about that,” said the Reading manager. “To move on the way they did from last season, to take that on to the pitch and that hurt, tells you the power of the people there.”

History is also on United’s side too – the Reds have won 10 and lost just one of the 18 previous competitive matches between these sides. Meanwhile, in FA Cup matches United has won six of the past seven.

It points to United’s safe passage and a – potential – quarter final tie against Chelsea to come.

Match details
Manchester United v Reading – FA Cup, Old Trafford – 8pm, 18 February 2013

Possible teams
United (4-2-3-1): Lindegaard; Jones, Smalling, Vidić, Büttner; Cleverley, Anderson; Nani, Giggs, Young; Hernández. Subs from: de Gea, Ferdinand, Rafael, Evans, Evra, Nani, Kagawa, Carrick, Valencia, Powell,Cleverley, Welbeck, Rooney, van Persie.

Reading (4-5-1): Federici; Pearce,Mariappa, Harte, Kelly; Hunt, McAnuff, Carrico, Guthrie, Karacan; Pogrebnyak. Subs from: Taylor, Shorey, Morrison, McCleary, Leigertwood, Kebe, Le Fondre, Blackman

Match officials
Referee: Andre Marriner
Assistant Referees: Darren England and Steve Child
Fourth Official: Philip Dowd

Form
United: DWWWWD
Reading: WWWDLL

Head to Head
Last 10: United 6, Reading 4, Draw 0
Overall: United 9, Reading 1, Draw 7

Prediction
2-1

86 comments

RobDiablo - February 18, 2013 Reply

I could see the side being set out something like you’ve indicated, but I would play Kagawa behind Chicharito. He’s not done particularly well since returning from injury, and I would hope that a chance to start in his preferred position against a lesser side would be just the ticket to get his season back on track.

marlon - February 18, 2013 Reply

DDG
Jones Small Vidic Butt
Val And Clev Young
Wel Hernandez

uncleknobheadffs - February 18, 2013 Reply

powell not even on the bench

RobDiablo - February 18, 2013 Reply

Strongish side with a good bench; I hope they can do the business.

Subs: Lindegaard, Ferdinand, Giggs, Nani, RvP, Kagawa, and Carrick.

Anything but a replay, please.

sidney - February 18, 2013 Reply

uncleknobheadffs said:
powell not even on the bench

We’re fucking him about
Nani benched n all
If Val can’t have a decent game against these then he’s done

uncleknobheadffs - February 18, 2013 Reply

if we lose this we’re giving city the cup

brianofnazareth - February 18, 2013 Reply

Anyone got a high quality link?

Anantax - February 18, 2013 Reply

Hmmm. Bit lethargic from ourside. Cant hold up the ball up front…

han - February 18, 2013 Reply

bit headless chicken tactics

uncleknobheadffs - February 18, 2013 Reply

after the lord mayors show tbf

sidney - February 18, 2013 Reply

I want Hunt on the ball more because Vidic is monstering him like this is a cup final or something

Anantax - February 18, 2013 Reply

Where the fuck is Ando. Missing totally so far…

uncleknobheadffs - February 18, 2013 Reply

oh ffs

sidney - February 18, 2013 Reply

Nani has been hit 3 times since he came on

Anantax - February 18, 2013 Reply

Typical lacklustre performance against a bottom side

To me Ando has been completely missing….Hernandez has also been awful…cant hold up the ball though tbf that’s not his game….Young also his ineffectual self…lots of running but no real quality

Tbf defense looks solid, Reading hasnt really threatened….lets hope our attack improves

uncleknobheadffs - February 18, 2013 Reply

the anderson and cleverley partnership has been crap

Pikey McScum - February 18, 2013 Reply

brianofnazareth said:
Anyone got a high quality link?

Fucking hell Brian, you think you’d have this sussed by now

Wiziwig – now sit down and behave

dozer - February 18, 2013 Reply

Anderson must be taken off for united to have a chance. Add Anderson’s wages to nani and ship that pie eater off!

captainhormone - February 18, 2013 Reply

This is a shop window game for our faffers

han - February 18, 2013 Reply

i think tony v has had a decent run in the team recently but i guess he has lost the plot for the most part
time for rvp to get on and show the rest of them up front how to do it

han - February 18, 2013 Reply

wanking performance so far this half

han - February 18, 2013 Reply

this cunt hunt is everywhere tonight

madredmonkey - February 18, 2013 Reply

Come on ffs.

han - February 18, 2013 Reply

hi madred
pretty piss poor fare since half time tbh

madredmonkey - February 18, 2013 Reply

han said:
hi madred
pretty piss poor fare since half time tbh

Hello Han, absolutely, boring stuff.

Spudiator - February 18, 2013 Reply

This game is just lacking a spark, a bit of magic, something to liven things up. Far too often players are getting into good positions and suffering from indecisiveness. Hopefully van Persie’s arrival can shake things up a bit, because this is getting a bit tedious.

madredmonkey - February 18, 2013 Reply

RVP,on.

han - February 18, 2013 Reply

about fking time
naniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

marlon - February 18, 2013 Reply

Nani deserved that

Anantax - February 18, 2013 Reply

Fnally an assist from Valencia and a goal from Nani. Both a long time coming….

Good job…lets add more!

sidney - February 18, 2013 Reply

Fergie can sit down now

madredmonkey - February 18, 2013 Reply

Thank god.

han - February 18, 2013 Reply

little pea can’t score for toffee when he starts…

Anantax - February 18, 2013 Reply

Wow Nani having a good game. Wonders never cease….perhaps a sign of good things to come?

madredmonkey - February 18, 2013 Reply

Sweet Pea.

marlon - February 18, 2013 Reply

Amazing what happens when you take Young off

sidney - February 18, 2013 Reply

The cross from Nani, dropped in to that area near post, begging to be nodded in
He’ll do thousands of them

Spudiator - February 18, 2013 Reply

Blimey, van Persie hasn’t been directly involved in the goals, but his presence does seem to have made a difference. The way Reading have been parking the bus though, I kind of suspected there might be more goals once the first went in. Hopefully we can add one or two more now.

United Rant’s original returning eternal optimist!

sidney - February 18, 2013 Reply

lol careful doing a chest bump with Ando, you’re taking your life into your hands

brianofnazareth - February 18, 2013 Reply

Anantax said:
Wow Nani having a good game. Wonders never cease….perhaps a sign of good things to come?

Don’t let your heart play tricks on you! I’ve been waiting years for him to sort his self out! He’ll only let you down!

sidney - February 18, 2013 Reply

That ball from Van Persie

madredmonkey - February 18, 2013 Reply

sidney said:
That ball from Van Persie
class.

MANCHESTER IS MY HEAVEN- SIR MATT BUSBY

han - February 18, 2013 Reply

ffs
let them in

madredmonkey - February 18, 2013 Reply

sloppy shit that.

uncleknobheadffs - February 18, 2013 Reply

cue le fondre late equaliser

han - February 18, 2013 Reply

welbeck ffs tripping over his left foot

madredmonkey - February 18, 2013 Reply

welbeck ffs.

MANCHESTER IS MY HEAVEN- SIR MATT BUSBY

captainhormone - February 18, 2013 Reply

Van persie is as influential in a forward role as Keane was in midfield

Pikey McScum - February 18, 2013 Reply

Not to break up the Mad/han love in, but did anyone else just see Red Dread there?

Cunt’s put on a few kilos!

Explain yourself Cap!!

captainhormone - February 18, 2013 Reply

And Keane is one of my fave 3 utd players of all time

han - February 18, 2013 Reply

captainhormone said:
Van persie is as influential in a forward role as Keane was in midfield

he’s pretty good in defence too tbf

sidney - February 18, 2013 Reply

We’re just hoofing it back to Reading

captainhormone - February 18, 2013 Reply

Pikey McScum said:
Not to break up the Mad/han love in, but did anyone else just see Red Dread there?

Cunt’s put on a few kilos!

Explain yourself Cap!!

Where

madredmonkey - February 18, 2013 Reply

Pikey McScum said:
Not to break up the Mad/han love in, but did anyone else just see Red Dread there?

Cunt’s put on a few kilos!

Explain yourself Cap!!

yep.

madredmonkey - February 18, 2013 Reply

RVP, class.

Pikey McScum - February 18, 2013 Reply

captainhormone said:
Where

After Welbeck’s bit of skill the TV cut to a chunky version of J in the blue away kit.

madredmonkey - February 18, 2013 Reply

made such hard work of that win.

sidney - February 18, 2013 Reply

Job done

Anantax - February 18, 2013 Reply

Bloody Wellbeck. He needs to improve tht part of his game. Actually he needs to improve all parts of his game…..except for the running part…he does thta pretty well…

madredmonkey - February 18, 2013 Reply

Another long night watching United.

uncleknobheadffs - February 18, 2013 Reply

im bored of waiting for fat anderson to do something

han - February 18, 2013 Reply

Anantax said:
Bloody Wellbeck. He needs to improve tht part of his game. Actually he needs to improve all parts of his game…..except for the running part…he does thta pretty well…

headless chicken syndrome
cept for last week when he scored with his head…

Anantax - February 19, 2013 Reply

From the Reading manager: “I spoke to Robin van Persie when he was warming up and told him to sit back down….”
Funny…

dozer - February 19, 2013 Reply

Nani had an excellent game. He has earned his place and he should start against Real.
Let them have our own Ronaldo to worry about
He shouldn’t start on the left wing however, he’s next to useless there.

Not sure how well Coentrao knows his play though, both being Portugese and all.

Tommy - February 19, 2013 Reply

dozer said:
Nani had an excellent game. He has earned his place and he should start against Real.
Let them have our own Ronaldo to worry about
He shouldn’t start on the left wing however, he’s next to useless there.

Not sure how well Coentrao knows his play though, both being Portugese and all.

Surely, SURELY, Nani must play. Maybe not against Real, not knowing what our gameplan will be and how he would fit into that, but against QPR. Valencia needs some time to sit in the naughty corner and sort his shit out. He’s been absolutely terrible for months. It’s really beyond a joke now. It can’t get worse.

Wouldn’t mind seeing Giggs on the left, Nani on the right against QPR. They’re our in-form wide players at the minute, you can’t really argue with that. Although you can debate what that says about the rest of the wingers til the cows come home.

RobDiablo - February 19, 2013 Reply

dozer said:
Nani had an excellent game. He has earned his place and he should start against…

…QPR. Then, as Tommy wrote, Sir Alex can see if Nani fits the plan for the return match with Real Madrid.

Really, Tommy: Nani plays well in one half of one match and he is “in form”? Just how much further can our standards fall?

Tommy - February 19, 2013 Reply

RobDiablo said:
Really, Tommy: Nani plays well in one half of one match and he is “in form”? Just how much further can our standards fall?

I know, I know… But at this point would you really put him 3rd behind Valencia and Young?

RobDiablo - February 19, 2013 Reply

Tommy said:
I know, I know… But at this point would you really put him 3rd behind Valencia and Young?

No, but I might put him third behind Rooney and Welbeck.

Seriously though, I do hope that Nani has chosen this moment to pull his head out of his ass and to start performing as we know he can. Since United are unlikely to keep a clean sheet when Real come to OT, they will have to win the match outright, and if Nani could be trusted to do the job—both offensively and defensively—on the right wing, that would allow Sir Alex to slot Rooney in behind RvP in the only formation likely to bring victory to the Red Devils.

Denton Davey - February 19, 2013 Reply

OK, so what’s the point of Ashley Young ? He can’t pass with any accuracy; he runs into blind alleys; and when he has the keeper at his mercy – on the ground after saving Cleverley’s shot – AY can’t score.

The difference between a journeyman and a guy with awesome talent and audacity was on display last night – within four minutes of his introduction, Nani had hit the post with a fantastic volley AND forced the Reading keeper to make a full-stretch save. In the second half, he scored one, set up another and was CONSTANTLY dangerous.

Sure, Nani might go walkabout from time-to-time but the point of being an attacking player is, surely, to attack and create panic among the opposition. What does Ashley Young (or Antonio Valencia, for that matter) contribute to the attack ? It’s suicidal to keep a talent like Nani on the outside, looking in. He’s a game-changer – and last night he was the match winner. Like I wrote before, what’s the point of Ashley Young ?

RobDiablo - February 19, 2013 Reply

Commenter said:
OK, so what’s the point of Ashley Young ?

…It’s suicidal to keep a talent like Nani on the outside, looking in. He’s a game-changer – and last night he was the match winner. Like I wrote before, what’s the point of Ashley Young ?

Just because Ashley Young is next to useless doesn’t make Nani the Messiah. Nani can be a game-changer, and last night he was the match winner, but in the league cup match against Cheatski, it proved suicidal to trust Nani to make the right decision, to think first of the needs of the team rather than those of his ego.

uncleknobheadffs - February 19, 2013 Reply

young is terrible regardless of nani

offers nothing, completely average player

he doesnt hide though tbf, so hes a notch above valencia

Tommy - February 19, 2013 Reply

I’m still gobsmacked by how poor Valencia has become. I haven’t seen a footballer’s performance levels drop this far since… I dunno, Torres?

RobDiablo - February 19, 2013 Reply

If Jones doesn’t recover in time for the return leg with Real, Valencia might be the man to put on Ronaldo. I understand that he plays CM for his country.

marlon - February 19, 2013 Reply

Watching CL tonight, realised we had no players who could actually dribble past a man any more (except maybe Jones). Nani could well be sold, Young can only cut back onto his right, Valencia and Anderson just have zero confidence, Rooney seems to have had it coached out of him. Makes us very 1 dimensional.

Denton Davey - February 20, 2013 Reply

RobDiablo @ 5:29: “Nani can be a game-changer, and last night he was the match winner, but in the league cup match against Cheatski, it proved suicidal to trust Nani to make the right decision, to think first of the needs of the team rather than those of his ego.”

That “mistake” against Chelski was blown waaay out of proportion – sure it was a knucklehead move to try and add an extra goal in added time rather than keeping the ball in the corner BUT let’s not forget that when he gave up the ball in the corner TheRentBoyz were a full-pitch-length away from UTD’s goal. Don’t any of the other ten guys on the pitch have any share in the “blame game”. Indeed, if he had faffed about in the corner and lost the ball the only difference would have been that CSKALondon would have probably had a few less seconds to run the ball the length of the pitch and score before time ended. AND, if memory serves, there was a minute to go when control of the ball was given away. So, re-run the tape and replay that last minute and the same result – shitty defending (as has been all-too-common for the past year) might have snatched a draw from the grasp of victory. Was Nani to blame for the much, much, much worse meltdown against Everton last spring ?

Anyhow, I am not saying that he is “the Messiah” but I do think that he’s a guy with audacious talent, speed, and skill who can (and does) use both feet which is NOT what can be said about Young, Valencia, or even Giggs. Nani is a talent and it’s not his “fault” that SAF hasn’t managed him better – the last time Fergy let him out of the doghouse (against TheArse at the beginning of 2010) Nani damned-near carried the team for 18 months.

The only way it would make sense to dispense with Nani’s services – and to keep hold of both Young and Valencia – is if the team is going to abandon its reliance on wingers which doesn’t seem very likely as SAF has splashed-the-ca$h on Zaha or if (when miracles never cease !) Bebe comes good.

RobDiablo - February 20, 2013 Reply

Commenter said:
That “mistake” against Chelski was blown waaay out of proportion…
The only way it would make sense to dispense with Nani’s services – and to keep hold of both Young and Valencia…

I only chose the league cup as the most recent example of the flip side of what Nani brings to the table.
Personally, I can think of no reason to dispense with Nani and not do the same with Young and Valencia except that finances won’t allow Sir Alex to buy quality replacements. So, I guess he’ll continue to buy a right-footed winger every other season and ruin the best of them by playing them on the left.

dozer - February 20, 2013 Reply

Valencia’s played brilliantly over the last few seasons to be dismissed off in such a fickle manner. If it were Rooney we’d be blaming Fergie for not playing Madonna and Tom Cruise along with him to suit his play.
Valencia more than deserves his chance next season. He’s top class and this form of his is only temporary.
Only Young perhaps needs replacing with a top class player if available. If not, I’ll rather keep Young, he’s not a bad player and does offer more than any of our wingers on the left side of the pitch. Nani will probably be sold anyway next season, he’d have signed a contract by now if he were staying.
Edit: I thought Valencia was quite decent against Reading, not a bad performance for a player so much out of form.

Sir Ryan Giggs? No no no. Sir Paul Scholes say.

Anantax - February 20, 2013 Reply

Young is terrible. Agree

Valencia is off form. Agree. But given his Player’s Player of the year performance last season surely he deserves another chance next season

Nani, great talent, game changer? Absolutely. But from past 3 seasons, how many times has he changed a game? How many times has he made wrong decisions? How many times does he frustrate instead of having an end product?

I love Nani’s talent. But what we need is consistent performance. Whats the point of having even the most talented player in the world if you’re never sure whether you’ll get that talent or you’ll get a mediocre if not downright horrible performance.

uncleknobheadffs - February 20, 2013 Reply

valencia was always gonna be found out

wingers with zero xfactor always will

at his best he was a functional push and runner, no better than lennon or someone

he plays because taggart is content with our midfield being workmanlike and xfactorless

what makes it worse is hes a hider

Denton Davey - February 20, 2013 Reply

uncleknobhead: “valencia was always gonna be found out”

He was “found out” by Barcelona in the 2011 CL Final @ Wembley. Since that time, he’s been less effective because other teams have realized that he’s just too one-dimensional and has a one-trick bag. AV7 has speed, strength, directness, and great athleticism BUT he’s not a difficult player to defend if he’s constantly ushered away from his right foot – then the ball goes backwards to the full-back and the urgency of the attack is lost. However, those qualities – speed, strength, athleticism – could be better used in a different role. He plays in central midfield for his national team and I’d like to see him get a similar role against RM in the return leg – shadowing CR7. Indeed, I’d feel more comfortable with him doing that job than MrJones.

sidney - February 20, 2013 Reply

Nani deserves a run in the first team after he got us through the Reading game

And if he’s not a dozy twat and nails some form then we’ll not have to even think about Valencia til the end of the season

But he has to take his chance and use his brain on the pitch

Denton Davey - February 20, 2013 Reply

Sidney @ 4:57: ” he has to take his chance and use his brain on the pitch”

Right, it’s all about “what have you done for me lately” – except in the case of SirRyanGiggs who has been tearing them apart for 23 years WHEN he’s played on the left wing.

sidney - February 20, 2013 Reply

Why don’t you ever just click the quote link

uncleknobheadffs - February 20, 2013 Reply

play him on the right and he’ll always do the business

Denton Davey - February 22, 2013 Reply

Sidney @ 9:36: “Why don’t you ever just click the quote link”

I’m an old dog so not particularly well-disposed to new tricks.

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