Preview: United v West Ham



The Magic of the Cup™ – reloaded. Uniteds of Manchester and visitors West Ham replay in the third round at Old Trafford on Wednesday ten days after a vibrant 2-2 draw in East London. The carrot: a home tie with Fulham on 26 January – and another step towards a Wembley date in May.

Still, with United having laboured for much of the previous match at Upton Park, Sam Allardyce’s men head north with some confidence. After all, the Reds continue to struggle with the defensive side of the game this season, while Sir Alex Ferguson’s side spent much of the second half of Sunday’s clash with Liverpool on the back foot.

The Premier League stands to one side on Wednesday, however, with Sir Alex’ men seeking a 12th FA Cup victory next May. Indeed, the passion with which the Scot celebrated United’s last-minute equaliser in the East End provides ample evidence for Ferguson’s desire to end a nine-year barren run in the Cup.

Good news, then, that Ferguson’s side is likely to be strong for the replay, with Wayne Rooney and Nani set to return for the 125th meeting between the two sides. Rooney hasn’t featured since United’s draw with Swansea City last month, while the Portuguese winger Nani has been out since October.

“Both will play, both are fit,” confirmed Ferguson on Tuesday, who is likely to deploy a many of his senior men at Old Trafford.

“Wayne coming back is good news. He’s been training for a week and looking good. As for Nani, he came back from his spell abroad  and is really looking very good. So I’m fine and will play a strong team.

“Of course, we’ve got a big squad but it’s also an important tie tomorrow for the club. We want to try and have a go at this FA Cup. We haven’t had a run for a long time. We’re at home and we have got to take advantage of that. If we get through, we have got another home tie so there’s a big incentive for the club to make sure we get through.”

Manchester United v West Ham United - FA Cup, Old Trafford - Wednesday 16 December 8.05pmMeanwhile, Ferguson is unlikely to risk either central defensive duo Nemanja Vidić or Jonny Evans – not with United set to face Tottenham Hotspur in London at the weekend in what could be a pivotal clash.

Nor will winger Ashley Young feature after the former Aston Villa winger picked up a knock during the weekend’s victory over Liverpool. Still, with Anderson, Shinji Kagawa and Javier Hernández all in the need of minutes United will not be short of firepower – on the pitch, or bench.

Yet, whatever his offensive options Ferguson will be looking for a far better defensive performance at Old Trafford, with his side having secured just six clean sheets all season.

Goalkeeper David de Gea and likely central defenders Rio Ferdinand and Chris Smalling will have to deal with the visitors’ crossing far better than at Upton Park when the Reds conceded twice from Joe Cole deliveries.

“We conceded two goals from headers in the first game and it’s a type of play that you come across in this league quite a bit,” said Spanish youngster de Gea.

“But we have players at the back who are perfectly capable of dealing with the threat of big powerful strikers who like the ball in the air. We have enough nous to cope with that. It’s something we work on and try to come up with solutions in training.”

Meanwhile, West Ham travel north without key defensive trio James Collins, George McCartney and Joey O’Brien, leaving the Hammers manager with just three fully fit senior defenders. Guy Demel, James Tomkins and Winston Reid will start, while Allardyce could also deploy youngsters Jordan Spence and Danny Potts.

Moreover, the Hammers boss may be tempted to rest key players, with his side facing a crucial relegation fixtures against Queens Park Rangers at the weekend.

Still, Allardyce may still be temped to deploy Joe Cole after the midfielder laid on a brace of goals in the first fixture. Cole also featured in West Ham’s last FA cup victory over United – the 1-0 win at Old Trafford more than a decade ago.

It is also a special occasion for defender Ferdinand, who relishes another tie with West Ham – one which recalls his time in the Londoners’ academy alongside Michael Carrick, Frank Lampard and Cole. Ferdinand is yet to win the FA Cup with any of his clubs.

“The era we had there will be part of West Ham’s history forever now, with so many players who went on to play for England and win league titles with other clubs,” said Ferdinand.

“It is unfortunate for West Ham those players did not stay there and their presence get built upon. That is all history now I suppose. But Joe Cole has gone there to rewrite a bit of his own history in the coming months. It would be good to see him do something positive, but not this week. We want to get through this round.”

And should United emerge victorious another alumni – this time from United – will return to Old Trafford: Dimitar Berbatov.

Match Details
Manchester United v West Ham United – FA Cup, Old Trafford – Wednesday 16 January 8.05pm

Possible teams
United (4-4-2): De Gea; Jones, Ferdinand, Smalling, Büttner; Valencia, Carrick, Anderson, Nani; Rooney, Hernández. Subs from: Amos, Rafael, Evans, Evra, Cleverley, Kagawa, van Persie, Scholes, Fletcher, Welbeck, Powell, Macheda, Giggs, Hernández.

West Ham (4-5-1): Jaaskelainen; Demel, Tomkins, Reid, Potts; Noble, Diarra; J Cole, Nolan, Taylor; C Cole. Subs from: Henderson, Nolan, Jarvis, Maïga, Vaz Tê, Diamé, Maguire, Spence, Chamakh, Tombides, Driver, Paulista.

Officials
Referee: Philip Dowd
Assistant Referees: Simon Long & Gary Beswick
Fourth: Official Lee Probert

Form
United: DWWWDW
West Ham: DLLWDL

Head to Head
Last 10: United 8, West Ham 1, Draw 1
Overall: United 57, West Ham 42, Draw 25

Prediction
3-0

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  • marlon

    What’s happened to Fletcher? Injured, playing for the reserves. Hard to see him having any kind of future at United if he can’t even get minutes at one of the busiest periods of the season when we had injuries in his position.

    • Mongoletsi

      I’m guessing his road to recovery is longer than expected. He missed a lot of game time innit. Fitness won’t be what it was, esp given the nature of his illness.

      Fingers crossed for the lad…

  • Violent Banana

    Can’t help but feel Nani’s trip abroad was similar to Rooney’s stint in the US. Hopefully he’s sorted himself out, he’s a match winner when he wants to be.

  • uncleknobheadffs

    valencia and nani will probaby both play,

    play valencia out of position at fullback so nani can play in his best position

  • Anantax

    I really do hope Nani proves me and his other doubters wrong…

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    There are no “doubters” of Nani… we all “know”, he’s got serious talent.

    … and we also “know”, that he’s a fuckin idiot.

  • sheesh

    What a ball ache.

    Cheers Valencia for that skied effort at Upton Park. Prick.

  • madredmonkey

    Rooney and Nani start.

  • marlon

    Lind
    Raf Small Jones Butt
    Val Ando Giggs Nani
    Roo Chich

  • marlon

    Bench: amos rio carrick scholes kag welbeck rvp

  • sidney

    Strong bench
    We actually want to win
    I hope Nani turns up

  • uncleknobheadffs

    nani on the left

  • uncleknobheadffs

    has taggart given up on his bastard son

  • sidney

    What the fuck is this, Coronation Street

    Oh ffs ITV

  • sidney

    Kick off is at 5 past 8 ffs
    Turned on ITV and got a face full of Gail Platt, no warning, nothing

  • uncleknobheadffs

    i will watch this in the gym

  • han

    uncleknobheadffs said:
    i will watch this in the gym

    aye
    go pump up your biceps for your boyfriends
    10 changes doesn’t bode well and it’s freezing too
    an early goal or 3 would be nice to settle any nerves

  • han

    tv decides to go awol ffs
    now have to listen to the game on radio 5
    any chance of an invite over to yours unc?

  • han

    actually i’ve worked out i can watch it on itv.com
    no worries unc
    save it for next time
    until then…xxx

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    sidney said:
    Kick off is at 5 past 8 ffs
    Turned on ITV and got a face full of Gail Platt, no warning, nothing

    “Badges, to god-damned hell with badges! We have no badges. In fact, we don’t need badges. I don’t have to show you any stinking badges, you god-damned cabrón and ching’ tu madre! Come out from that shit-hole of yours. I have to speak to you.”

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    uncleknobheadffs said:
    i will watch this in the gym

    Janitor duty again?

  • marlon

    Anderson amazing pass

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Quality.

  • Anantax

    What a pass Ando…Great cross by Hernandez too..

  • Spudiator

    All too many reminders why I hate watching games on ITV. I used to like Adrian Childs when he was presenting The Apprentice: You’re Fired, but since he left the BBC there’s just something about him that really irritates me. Also, 2 minutes into their coverage and they’re already on a commercial break. Even Sky don’t take the piss to that extent.

  • madredmonkey

    Good start.

  • sidney

    Anderson is quick to move forward from a flat, standing position

    That’s what starts that move, the way he moves around his marker

  • brianofnazareth

    When Ando wants to turn it on he can!

  • captainhormone

    Well..it’s officially true

    We have less ideas than a stillborn spastic

    Embarrassment…no value in our midfield

  • brianofnazareth

    I fucking jinxed Ando!! He needs a run in the team, that’s all.

  • captainhormone

    There’s no value in jinxing a non existent midfield Brian.

  • brianofnazareth

    I’m STILL standing by my Nani and Ando hopes! You keep your Ashley Young one!

  • han

    captainhormone said:
    There’s no value in jinxing a non existent midfield Brian.

    hey cap’n
    nice to see you are still breathing
    xxx

  • captainhormone

    No, I’m big enough (fuck off alf) and daft enough to admit young is the footballing equivalent of an helicopter crashing into a crane in central London and is a massive let down

    For let down, see shit..I got that one wrong..massively (again, fuck off be dosa you yank cunt)

    Now I know how my parents feel.

  • Anantax

    Dont get me wrong..I love Rooney. But he had only THREE good touches in the whole half…one of which was a goal thankfuly. His first touch is just awfull

    Nani still missing a football brain I see….

    Ah well there is still the 2nd half to hope for….

  • captainhormone

    han said:
    hey cap’n
    nice to see you are still breathing
    xxx

    Pity you are you shit cunt

  • captainhormone

    Hehe..a blast of rant of old

    # retrorant

  • han

    captainhormone said:
    Pity you are you shit cunt

    i see the love is still with you
    xxx

  • captainhormone

    han said:
    i see the love is still with you
    xxx

    Never left me Han

  • captainhormone

    Adrian Chiles..vanilla in human form..boring bastard that makes my long standing herpes problem seem refreshingly vital..what a bastard

  • Tommy

    Pleased with a comfortable half. Was always pretty confident we’d have too much for them at home

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    FFS… 2 minutes into half time, and some fat cunt has allready eaten all the pies… first time that’s happened in months…

  • han

    captainhormone said:
    Never left me Han

    wish you could spread the love around unc’s (not his arse cheeks)

  • han

    going back to the game, if we don’t get another, it will be bumsqueak time come 80 mins

  • captainhormone

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    FFS… 2 minutes into half time, and some fat cunt has allready eaten all the pies… first time that’s happened in months…

    Step away from the fridge then Barry

  • Tommy
  • Anantax

    Bloody hell….

    What kind of cross is that from Nani??

    What kind of shot is that from Hernandez?

  • captainhormone

    Anantax said:
    Bloody hell….

    What kind of cross is that from Nani??

    What kind of shot is that from Hernandez?

    You do realise we are shit don’t you

  • Tommy

    Do all our keepers go to the same (shite) hairdresser?

  • Tommy

    Lindegaard looks like a serial killer from the 70s

  • Tommy

    And de Gea looks like one of his victims

  • captainhormone

    Good keeping

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    What the fuck……. it’s time like this where our lack of a real hard ass, vocal leader shows.

    Keane would be handing out one slap after another…

  • captainhormone

    Antonio bellendcia

    LKHF

    faffing

  • Tommy

    Fuck, is 90 minutes of good football too much to ask?

    Chelsea drew with saints. Hah.

  • captainhormone

    Rooney…..oh dear

  • captainhormone

    Carsick…oh dear

  • brianofnazareth

    Giggs rolling back the years, still a great sight!

    Rooney WTF!!

  • sidney

    Giggs though, best performance so far this season

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    That was justice in my opinion… if ours wasn’t a pen, then neither was theirs.

    Still… Wayne… what the fuck!

  • captainhormone

    brianofnazareth said:
    Giggs rolling back the years, still a great sight!

    Rooney WTF!!

    Not as great as you rolling back the duvet when I come in the bedroom

  • Tommy

    Most predictable penalty miss of all time. Why do we even let Rooney take them anymore?

    Giggs is having a blinder

  • captainhormone

    sidney said:
    Giggs though, best performance so far this season

    Contract talks ongoing then?

  • sidney

    I like how he tried to blame the pitch

    His body position was wrong and he got under it

  • uncleknobheadffs

    captainhormone said:
    Antonio bellendcia

    i came up with that tbf

  • madredmonkey

    FFS Rooney , never take one again.

    MANCHESTER IS MY HEAVEN- SIR MATT BUSBY

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    I’m starting to think Ferguson might shift Rooney come summer…

  • captainhormone

    uncleknobheadffs said:
    i came up with that tbf

    Well at least someone was keeping the fame alight whilst I’ve been gone

    Good work

  • captainhormone

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    I’m starting to think Ferguson might shift Rooney come summer…

    Lewindowski will be the catalyst

    And I don’t rate him either

  • madredmonkey

    captainhormone said:
    Well at least someone was keeping the fame alight whilst I’ve been gone

    Good work

    never noticed that you left.

  • Tommy

    Pea’s been pretty shite since the goal

  • captainhormone

    madredmonkey said:
    never noticed that you left.

    Judging by some of the shit I’ve read..wish I’d never come back

  • Tommy

    Vintage scholes

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Giggs… fuckin hell… lol

  • madredmonkey

    captainhormone said:
    Judging by some of the shit I’ve read..wish I’d never come back

    it is a bit lifeless on here, these days.

  • uncleknobheadffs

    surely valencia cringes watching giggs

  • captainhormone

    madredmonkey said:
    it is a bit lifeless on here, these days.

    I’ve seen more life, zest and verve rin Barbara cartlands vibrator

  • captainhormone

    Well, that was shit

  • sidney

    Job done without having to try too hard

  • uncleknobheadffs

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    I’m starting to think Ferguson might shift Rooney come summer…

    of course he wont

    fucking fat twat

  • madredmonkey

    captainhormone said:
    I’ve seen more life, zest and verve rin Barbara cartlands vibrator

    thats another story.

  • captainhormone

    uncleknobheadffs said:
    of course he wont

    fucking fat twat

    Lol

  • captainhormone

    Kevin..Danny dyer is a cunt.

  • madredmonkey

    oh well were through, that’s all that we care about.

  • han

    that was pretty woeful
    no passion or urgency
    we will get our cocks twanged on sunday if we play like that

  • han

    uncleknobheadffs said:
    i came up with that tbf

    no u didnt

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    uncleknobheadffs said:
    of course he wont

    fucking fat twat

    Now that Hormone’s about, you feel like showin off?

    Don’t let your lust for Hormone get you into something you can’t handle…

    You pig-eyed, fuck head.

  • Anantax

    Pea Rooney Ando was shit after first 10 mins…

    Nani Valencia poor throughout

    Back four was decent I thought..albeit bit nervous at times

    Giggs my goodness….best player on the pitch by miles tonight…

  • han

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    Now that Hormone’s about, you feel like showin off?

    Don’t let your lust for Hormone get you into something you can’t handle…

    You pig-eyed, fuck head.

    he just wants to get into his anus

  • madredmonkey

    RVP got the night off, that’s good.

  • captainhormone

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    Now that Hormone’s about, you feel like showin off?

    Don’t let your lust for Hormone get you into something you can’t handle…

    You pig-eyed, fuck head.

    Lol

    That’s so L.A

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Fuckin hell… apparently that’s the 10th pen Rooney has missed for United.

  • han

    i see keane is trying hard to be the new cap’n birds eye

  • uncleknobheadffs

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    Now that Hormone’s about, you feel like showin off?

    Don’t let your lust for Hormone get you into something you can’t handle…

    You pig-eyed, fuck head.

    but ive been calling u a fat cunt for years

    its a factual statement

  • madredmonkey

    han said:
    i see keane is trying hard to be the new cap’n birds eye

    lol

  • Dean Jackson

    I have to comment on Jones at CB… solid as f**k. Was that the first time Smalling and Jones played as CB pair?

  • madredmonkey

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    Fuckin hell… apparently that’s the 10th pen Rooney has missed for United.

    yes missed 40% of them that’s shit.

  • captainhormone

    madredmonkey said:
    lol

    Tbf, the comment was about as funny as a burning orphanage

    Tbf

  • madredmonkey

    captainhormone said:
    Tbf, the comment was about as funny as a burning orphanage

    Tbf

    i love to see burning orphanages, iam a fire starter.

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    captainhormone said:
    Lol

    That’s so L.A

    Family Guy starts in 20 minutes… shouldn’t you be getting into character? Peter?

  • han

    captainhormone said:
    Tbf, the comment was about as funny as a burning orphanage

    Tbf

    we can’t all be such highly rated comediennes like u and fuckhead

  • captainhormone

    madredmonkey said:
    i love to see burning orphanages, iam a fire starter.

    Drop me off next stop mate, ta.

  • han

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    Family Guy starts in 20 minutes… shouldn’t you be getting into character? Peter?

    don’t you mean Family Gay?

  • captainhormone

    han said:
    we can’t all be such highly rated comediennes like u and fuckhead

    Correct, and you ain’t.

  • captainhormone

    han said:
    don’t you mean Family Gay?

    I rest my point

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    uncleknobheadffs said:
    but ive been calling u a fat cunt for years

    its a factual statement

    Family Guy starts in 20 minutes, shouldn’t you be getting into character? Meg?

  • han

    im really losing the love for u cap’n
    u don’t half try me
    xxx

  • captainhormone

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    Family Guy starts in 20 minutes… shouldn’t you be getting into character? Peter?

    No..I hate family guy…I’m more of a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khQIqiRGCbs kind of guy

  • uncleknobheadffs

    jones and smalling are fucking great

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    han said:
    don’t you mean Family Gay?

    FFS…

  • captainhormone

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    FFS…

    Lol

  • uncleknobheadffs

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    Family Guy starts in 20 minutes, shouldn’t you be getting into character? Meg?

    is that it

    ffs

  • madredmonkey

    captainhormone said:
    Drop me off next stop mate, ta.

    sorry full up, just me and Han, unc is in the boot, he is the entertainment later.

  • uncleknobheadffs

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    FFS…

    look at that ffs

    fucking pathetic

    han its time to go

  • captainhormone

    uncleknobheadffs said:
    look at that ffs

    fucking pathetic

    han its time to go

    LKHF..pinchbecknovalue

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    uncleknobheadffs said:
    jones and smalling are fucking great

    Bruce/Pallister… Stam/Johnson… Ferdinand/Vidic…

    Jones/Smalling could be the best… for years… with Rafa on the right… just need a lefty…

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    uncleknobheadffs said:
    is that it

    ffs

    Sorry… I didn’t know we were trying to be clever… how about this then… “you fat twat”?

  • captainhormone

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    Sorry… I didn’t know we were trying to be clever… how about this then… “you fat twat”?

    3ft spastic dwarf…it’s not big and it’s not clever.

  • uncleknobheadffs

    thats a fictional statement tho

  • captainhormone

    This is more like the old rant…threads going off topic, loads of slagging off, and a high level of cuntishness

    #retrorant

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    captainhormone said:
    3ft spastic dwarf…it’s not big and it’s not clever.

    Why are you here?

    The Jimmy Saville situation attracting too much attention on your typical night outs?

  • captainhormone

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    Why are you here?

    The Jimmy Saville situation attracting too much attention on your typical night outs?

    Ha…I’m surprised you haven’t campaigned for Him to get a pardon

    Tbf

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    captainhormone said:
    Ha…I’m surprised you haven’t campaigned for Him to get a pardon

    Tbf

    Sending you a message.

  • captainhormone

    Ok

  • sheesh

    Is this United Rant or an AOL chat forum? A lot of bollocks going on around here.

    Hi Cap.

  • captainhormone

    Hi sheesh…it’s an aol chat room

  • captainhormone

    You clicked on here whilst trying to visit oldspunkers.com

  • han

    now why are you civil to sheesh and not me when i also said hi cap?

  • han

    1 other thing i noted
    little pea is thinning
    just look at the crown area and you’ll see

  • captainhormone

    han said:
    now why are you civil to sheesh and not me when i also said hi cap?

    I have been civil to you..I’m not ignoring you

  • han

    captainhormone said:
    I have been civil to you..I’m not ignoring you

    true
    i’m not worthy of your attention

  • captainhormone

    han said:
    true
    i’m not worthy of your attention

    True

  • han

    captainhormone said:
    True

    too true

  • Violent Banana

    Let’s just forget that match ever happened and remember RVP’s goal as the winner.

  • brianofnazareth

    uncleknobheadffs said:
    jones and smalling are fucking great

    Hopefully that means Evans can now join Sunderland this summer instead of prolonging it like we did with O’Shea.

  • brianofnazareth

    sheesh said:
    Is this United Rant or an AOL chat forum? A lot of bollocks going on around here.

    Hi Cap.

    With Knobhead, Alf and the Cap going at it I thought I’d logged on to http://www.loosewomenbanter.co.uk/itv/ bollocks.

  • Pikey McScum

    All we need now is Chris to show his mental head again and it’ll be like days of yore

    (R.I.P. Chris)

  • captainhormone

    I miss chris and his cheesy smelling cock

  • Pikey McScum

    captainhormone said:
    I miss chris and his cheesy smelling cock

    Cheeto Chris was his name…

  • captainhormone

    Remember those Batty Cunts…chav cunts…..

  • brianofnazareth

    tbf we’ve had our right shower of cunts on here over the years. How long have you been a member of Rant (in all it’s forms) I know I was here before Cap showed his hairy ass, 2005??

  • captainhormone

    I was member number 20 i think…you were member number 7, but had had a dozen or so members in you first week

    lolololomglololomg

  • brianofnazareth

    captainhormone said:
    I was member number 20 i think…you were member number 7, but had had a dozen or so members in you first week

    lolololomglololomg

    Can’t even remember how the fuck I stumbled across Rant. BUT within a few weeks I knew it was my spiritual home. A place where a few perverted, deprived, sick, cunt loving came together and created magic. Was it around 2005?

    I’ve only ever been a member of this forum and fuckbuddies.com.

  • captainhormone

    brianofnazareth said:
    Can’t even remember how the fuck I stumbled across Rant. BUT within a few weeks I knew it was my spiritual home. A place where a few perverted, deprived, sick, cunt loving came together and created magic. Was it around 2005?

    I’ve only ever been a member of this forum and fuckbuddies.com.

    yes 2005…a few months before you were blowing me off on blackpools north pier

    we’ll always have Blackpool Bri..always have Blackpool

  • sheesh

    Fletcher out for the rest of the season:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21069820

  • sidney

    Well that’s a relief

    Fergie did well resisting the urge to play him over the packed christmas schedule, especially with Ando out

    It’s up there with some of his greatest achievements

  • uncleknobheadffs

    oh no

    what terrible news