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Reds prepared to leave it late for eight

Ed April 7, 2012 Tags: , Matches 131 comments

Manchester United will move eight points clear of the pack with victory over Mark Hughes’ Queens Park Rangers this weekend. That United plays ahead of Manchester City – Roberto Mancini’s men facing in-form Arsenal at the Emirates at 4pm Sunday – is a quirk of the fixture list that will pile the pressure on the Italian’s men should United secure victory first. Just the incentive required to eliminate any hint of complacency with seven games remaining.

Hughes’ visitors, who have beaten both Arsenal and Liverpool in recent weeks, remain in a relegation dog-fight as one of five sides that could still go down. It should ensure a competitive fixture at Old Trafford, with little love lost between Hughes and his former mentor, Sir Alex Ferguson.

Just as United demonstrated ample patience in victory over Blackburn Rovers on Monday night, Ferguson’s men will leave it late, if necessary, to secure three points at Old Trafford on Sunday. Indeed, says the United manager, the home side will draw on history should QPR prove to as stubborn as Blackburn.

Despite a growing sense of anticipation at Old Trafford, patience remains the watchword, with United closing in domestic title number 20.

“The game against QPR will be another like we experienced on Monday against a team fighting for their survival,” said Ferguson on Friday.

“They’re never easy – it wasn’t easy on Monday, but we managed to get a fantastic result with late goals. I don’t mind if we have to wait until the last 10 minutes again to win on Sunday. Over the years we have had these moments when we have scored late goals. Look back to 1993 and Sheffield Wednesday, two goals in the last nine minutes of injury-time. It is part of our history. We don’t give in. We are capable of scoring late goals. It is not an accident. There is a thread relating to the history of the club that way for many years now.

“This season you could point to the recovery at Chelsea, or you could point to Norwich or Monday night. With nine minutes to go it was still 0-0, but the players didn’t give in. They kept their intensity and concentration really well. That was the plus point on Monday. The intensity of our game was brilliant and our concentration was great.”

Manchester United versus Queens Park Rangers, Premier League, Old Trafford, 8 April 2012, 2pmUnited’s increasing authority since Paul Scholes’ return in January is a marked feature of this season’s run-in, with the 37-year-old midfielder once again establishing the Reds as the best passing side in the country. It is just one of many relevant data points, perhaps, but United’s pass completion rate ranks highest of all Premier League teams since January. It was sixth best before Scholes’ return to Old Trafford.

Yet, while Scholes has been outstanding alongside Michael Carrick in the heart of United’s midfield over the past four months, as the Reds have passed their way to 10 victories in the past 11 domestic league fixtures, Ferguson knows that only points mean prizes at this stage of the season.

United dominated possession against Blackburn, only for two moments of inspiration from Antonio Valencia and Ashley Young to win United the game and secure a five point Premier League lead.

“You have to grind results out and keep going and hope the team in front of you make mistakes or lose points,” added the 70-year-old Scot.

“You drop points in this league. It’s a fact. We all drop points. No-one goes through a season without dropping points. It is about when you drop them and, on the run-in, your aim is not to drop as many as your immediate opponents, which we haven’t done. We are in a good spell and are getting players back so there is some freshness in the team at the moment. Hopefully we can keep it going.”

Ferguson welcomes Nani back into the United fold, with the Portuguese winger finally recovering from an ankle problem that has kept the former Sporting player on the sidelines for five matches. Meanwhile, Ferguson can report a full bill of health in defence, with both Phil Jones and Chris Smalling challenging for a position in United’s back four against QPR. Indeed, only long-term injury concerns Anderson, Nemanja Vidić, Darren Fletcher and Michael Owen are likely to miss out on Sunday’s fixture.

However, United’s manager is unlikely make many changes from the side that beat Blackburn at Ewood, with winger Young likely to come into the side for Phil Jones, who failed to impress in central midfield against his former employers. The lob-sided nature of United’s shape at Ewood eventually gave way to a more balanced, penetrative, attack as Ferguson used his full complement of substitutes.

If the formation at Ewood smacked of caution then Ferguson is likely to preach attack against QPR, even if the United manager is aware of the opposition’s desperation to secure a result at Old Trafford. Hughes’ side lies 17th in the Premier League, ahead of the relegation zone on goal difference alone.

“They are all wakening up I suppose,” added Ferguson of the relegation battle.

“No-one would have bet on QPR beating Liverpool and Arsenal two weeks in a row and Wigan have had hit a bit of form too. The statistics for teams at the bottom picking up points are not good. What we had last weekend which was exceptional. All of a sudden Blackburn are right back into it and Villa are not out of it either.”

Meanwhile, Rangers’ manager Hughes welcomes back strikers Heidar Helguson and DJ Campbell from injury after the pair played in a friendly with West Ham United on Wednesday. The strike pair will have to settle for a place on the bench. However, former City players Joey Barton and Nedum Onuoha will start at Old Trafford, although neither player’s  form has justified the reported £60-80,000 per week in wages.

Former United player Hughes has enjoyed an oft feisty relationship with Ferguson since turning his hand to management, first with first Wales and then Blackburn, City and then Fulham. But Hughes, who played 467 games, scoring 163 goals, in two spells with United, concedes that the title is likely to be heading to Old Trafford this season, whatever the result on Sunday.

“I think at this stage of the season there is a little bit of a sense of inevitability,” admitted the 48-year-old manager.

“United have been in this situation so many times before, Manchester City haven’t and I think that can be key in this situation. You sense that United are looking at fixtures, taking each game on its merits and just ticking off games they have to play from now until the end of the season. You sense United are in the box-seat and you would be very surprised if they lost it from the position they find themselves in now.”

And history is on United’s side, not only in the title race, but in this fixture. Sunday’s match will be the 10th Premier League meeting between the two clubs, with the visitors having failed to win any of the previous nine encounters. Ferguson will fully understand this is no time to change that sequence of results.

Match details
Manchester United versus Queens Park Rangers, Premier League, Old Trafford, 8 April 2012, 2pm.

Potential Line-ups
United (4-4-1-1): de Gea; Rafael, Ferdinand, Evans, Evra; Valencia, Scholes, Carrick, Young; Rooney; Hernández. Subs from: Amos, Fabio, Smalling, Jones, Giggs, Park, Cleverley, Nani, Pogba, Welbeck, Berbatov.

QPR (4-5-1): Kenny; Hill, Ferdinand, Onuoha, Taiwo; Mackie, Diakite, Derry, Barton Taarabt; Zamora. Subs from: Cerny, Gabbidon, Young, Buzsaky, Wright-Phillips, Campbell, Bothroyd, Helguson.

Match Stats

  • United scored two late goals courtesy of Valencia and Young to beat Blackburn on Monday night. Young, who has made nine assists this season, claimed his fifth goal of the season;
  • Young is fifth in the EA SPORTS Player Performance Index for shooting accuracy, discounting players who have had fewer than twenty shots at goal, getting 74 per cent of his 43 shots at goal on target;
  • Valencia’s goals have come from just 14 shots, putting him in the top ten for shots per goal this season, needing just 3.5 shots for each goal;
  • United defender Rio Ferdinand is one of only two players in the EA Index to have attempted over 20 tackles without losing a single one. Rio has won 23 tackles so far this season;
  • Team-mate Phil Jones is ranked sixth in tackles won, having won 94 per cent of the 36 tackles he has attempted this season
  • Meanwhile, United’s visitors QPR secured a shock victory against Arsenal in the last round of Premier League games. Goals from Adel Taarabt and Samba Diakite gave QPR three vital points, meaning the west Londoners are level with relegation rivals Blackburn and Wigan Athletic;
  • Taarabt’s goal was his first of the season, despite being 16th overall in the Index for shots at goal, with 65 shots in total and 65 per cent on target;
  • QPR midfielder Akos Buzsacky has made 27 shots at goal this season, one every 23 and a half minutes while on the pitch – nobody shoots more frequently in the Premier League.

Form
United: LWLWWW
QPR: LDLWLW

Officials
Referee: Lee Mason (Bolton)
Assistants: A Garratt, D C Richards
Fourth Official: K Friend

131 comments

Alfonso Bedoya - April 7, 2012 Reply

Those tackle stats for Rio are impressive.

What were Scholes like?

Ed - April 7, 2012 Reply

Alf – Scholes 2011/2012 (Premier League only)

Total Matches Started: 8
Total Substitute Appearances:3
Total Minutes Played: 695
637/693 passes (91.9%)
10 chances created
22 tackles
14 interceptions
5 shots

bman - April 7, 2012 Reply

Is Cleverly fit again? I didn’t think Jones was that bad in midfield in the last match, but he’s a poor substitute for Cleverly as a ball carrier. Taarabt will need close watching by whoever our right back is, I could see him making the difference between relegation and survival for them, I’ve a feeling he’s really going to light things up for them the way Tevez did for West Ham right before we bought him.

uncleknobheadforfucksake - April 7, 2012 Reply

cleverleys not a ball carrier, he’s just a semi decent give and go type

bman - April 7, 2012 Reply

I think it’s just a difference in semantics, my point is that he’s not a pure passer in the Carrick or (these days) Scholes mould, nor a runabouty Fletcher type. I think he carries the ball well, and is also a good passer. He’s got a good brain and understands that in the middle of the pitch you can’t afford to talk defenders on as readily as wingers can, so he opts for the pass when that’s the best way to move the ball forward, but isn’t reluctant to run with it either. Basically I think he looked like he would add a lot to our midfield at the beginning of the season, giving us genuinely forward momentum and good ball retention qualities. I don’t think he’s a pure attacking/creative midfielder though.
As for his quality, I think the signs are good that he’s a least decent or even very decent, and ought to be a useful member of the squad. It’s a shame he’s really been held back since the beginning of the season. I’d like to see him given a decent run of games partnered with Carrick or with someone like Javi Martinez, who we really should pick up as a younger, better, and bollocksier version of Carrick. Even if he doesn’t prove to be top class, I think Cleverly looks like the kind of player that we could be genuinely happy to have in the squad.

Alfonso Bedoya - April 7, 2012 Reply

Cleverly hasn’t played enough… we need to stick with what’s working, not start fuckin about with questionable team selections and weird formations.

I wouldn’t even use Nani unless a game is well won. Valencia and Young all the way.

sidney - April 7, 2012 Reply

Cleverley isn’t going to get a sniff while there’s a title on the line. He’ not even making the bench. Fergie is going with the senior pros.

bman - April 7, 2012 Reply

I wouldn’t mind seeing us go with the formation we used against B’burn, only with Young on the left, Rooney up top alone, and Cleverly in behind him where Jones was. Alternatively, Nani on the left and Young in the middle behind Rooney, where he’s done well for Villa and England in the past. Young’s a legitimate goal threat, and more of a goal threat than Hernandez or Welbeck these days, since he’s also happy to have a go from some distance.

uncleknobheadforfucksake - April 7, 2012 Reply

tbf he does look a good player, don’t really seem to have any outstanding parts to his game tho, and clearly overhyped because the only young mids we’ve got at the club of note are him and quinton fortunes down syndrome brazilian shitehouse sister

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

please don’t have hernandez as a starter
he is not able to carry the same threat as when he comes off the bench
i doubt it, but this is a game for bulgaria to start – still, here’s wishing…

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

qpr may be shite and destined for the drop but they will scrap for the ball
and hughes is unlikely to want to concede anything today
need to be flying from the off and not pussy foot around

sheesh - April 8, 2012 Reply

Both hernandez and welbeck have been shite of late so whichever of them starts needs to pull their finger out. We should win this one comfortably. Wigan away will be tough and that’s the one I am more concerned about.

DeadRevel - April 8, 2012 Reply

Cleverley isn’t overhyped. When every knob and his brother is using the phrase ‘overhyped’ to describe him, how the fuck can he be overhyped?

He is a very good young player who hopefully will become a brilliant player.

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

yes he has promise but so did fatfuck anderson
hopefully, cleverley will learn to knuckle down
that fatfucker needs a knuckle sandwich with that talent he has wasted over the past 4 years

DeadRevel - April 8, 2012 Reply

True. I’m slightly worried by his self image promotion too. Didn’t expect that from a chavvy kid who looks more like Rooney than Becks.

Larry White - April 8, 2012 Reply

Hernandez is an awful footballer. Welbeck needs to be starting every game.

We’re home to QPR. QPR are shite. I don’t see any reason why we won’t batter them today. Carrick-Scholes to start and if/when we’re well ahead get Clev, Pog and Nani on the pitch. And for fuck sake start giving Fabii some games ahead of Evra.

6-0 United.

Larry White - April 8, 2012 Reply

*Fabio

brianofnazareth - April 8, 2012 Reply

Surprise surprise I’m shitting it about today’s game!! Please just score us early goals! And Arsenal do something good this season!!!

Alfonso Bedoya - April 8, 2012 Reply

Commenter said:
Cleverley isn’t overhyped. When every knob and his brother is using the phrase ‘overhyped’ to describe him, how the fuck can he be overhyped?

He is a very good young player who hopefully will become a brilliant player.

A lot of knobs and their brothers were saying Anderson was a future WPotY contender.

Cleverly has been good… but I’m not holding my breath… and we need better than just good, to take charge of THAT position.

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

Alfonso Bedoya said:
A lot of knobs and their brothers were saying Anderson was a future WPotY contender.

a lot of knobs, their brothers and UNCLES…

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

its not on radio 5
only on talk shite with stan colleycunt – i can’t stand his banal comments
hmmm looks like its the bbc website again for me

uncleknobheadforfucksake - April 8, 2012 Reply

get a better job and buy sky plus

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

uncleknobheadforfucksake said:
get a better job and buy sky plus

invite me over to yours u tite arse

uncleknobheadforfucksake - April 8, 2012 Reply

released there was no need for me to put ‘better’ in that post

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

still waiting for your invitation to sit on your leather corner sofa, watching sky plus on your 90 inch plasma/lcd screen, and being fed by aunty…

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

Commenter said:
True. I’m slightly worried by his self image promotion too. Didn’t expect that from a chavvy kid who looks more like Rooney than Becks.

qui basil?

uncleknobheadforfucksake - April 8, 2012 Reply

cleverley has his own website

uncleknobheadforfucksake - April 8, 2012 Reply

degea rafael evans rio evra young valencia scholes carrick rooney welbeck

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

berba not even a sub
no surprise there then
quelle domage

madredmonkey - April 8, 2012 Reply

han said:
invite me over to yours u tite arse

No way i am already there three’s a crowd.

madredmonkey - April 8, 2012 Reply

han said:
berba not even a sub
no surprise there then
quelle domage

He wont play for us again i bet.
quelle domage bit Del Boy, Han.

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

madredmonkey said:
He wont play for us again i bet.
quelle domage bit Del Boy, Han.

nah mad red
he is more fromage frais

madredmonkey - April 8, 2012 Reply

Massive game for us , need that win.

sidney - April 8, 2012 Reply

uncleknobheadforfucksake said:
cleverley has his own website

And he has barely played 10 games

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

roooooooooooooooooneyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
1-0

madredmonkey - April 8, 2012 Reply

Qpr down to 10.

sidney - April 8, 2012 Reply

Young was offside

Bit lucky… its a fix

madredmonkey - April 8, 2012 Reply

1-0 great start.

ichiro - April 8, 2012 Reply

terrible refereeing

Alfonso Bedoya - April 8, 2012 Reply

Brutally poor decisions there.

Offside, questionable penalty, and never a red.

madredmonkey - April 8, 2012 Reply

Alfonso Bedoya said:
Brutally poor decisions there.

Offside, questionable penalty, and never a red.

do we care.

ichiro - April 8, 2012 Reply

perfect match to work on the goal difference now

sidney - April 8, 2012 Reply

Here is an interesting stat – Rooney’s penalty means that United have now scored in their last 46 Premier League fixtures, equalling a record set by Arsenal between 2001 and 2003. United last failed to score in a 1-0 defeat to Aston Villa in December 2009.

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

young with a poor header

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

sidney said:
Here is an interesting stat – Rooney’s penalty means that United have now scored in their last 46 Premier League fixtures, equalling a record set by Arsenal between 2001 and 2003. United last failed to score in a 1-0 defeat to Aston Villa in December 2009.

thats only at OT

sidney - April 8, 2012 Reply

This ref is fucking mental

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

sidney said:
This ref is fucking mental

what did/didn’t he do?

sidney - April 8, 2012 Reply

Lol Taarabt faced with a one on one sprint with Valencia thinks ‘ah, fuck it’ and cuts inside instead

Alfonso Bedoya - April 8, 2012 Reply

madredmonkey said:
do we care.

I do… I want to win without the contentious decisions… it’s just summat for opposition fans to whinge about.

madredmonkey - April 8, 2012 Reply

Alfonso Bedoya said:
I do… I want to win without the contentious decisions… it’s just summat for opposition fans to whinge about.

i can see where your coming from.

sidney - April 8, 2012 Reply

That’s a penalty for Valencia, surely

Won’t get anything now though

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

has welbeck done much of note?
raf has been careless that much i know

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

another before h/t would be nice…

madredmonkey - April 8, 2012 Reply

han said:
another before h/t would be nice…

yes it would.

ichiro - April 8, 2012 Reply

Scholes look like he is in the mood to score

Alfonso Bedoya - April 8, 2012 Reply

Fans love to see Scholes have a crack!

Tommy - April 8, 2012 Reply

couldn’t give a toss about a bad decision, as many (including Fergie) have pointed out they happen to everyone and even out over the season. By 60 minutes in this shower will tire and we’ll put em to bed. At least 3-0 here.

sidney - April 8, 2012 Reply

Lol Hughes… waving the refs into the tunnel so he can tear them a new new

Alfonso Bedoya - April 8, 2012 Reply

Well… QPR don’t deserve to be a man down… but now that they are, we really should put at least 2 or 3 more past them… or I’d consider that a poor performance.

Tommy - April 8, 2012 Reply

Not to mention the entertainment of City fans complaining online

sidney - April 8, 2012 Reply

Alfonso Bedoya said:
I do… I want to win without the contentious decisions… it’s just summat for opposition fans to whinge about.

They’re gonna whinge regardless though, Alf

There will always be contentious decisions over the course of a season that you can point to and say that’s the reason they won the league, or its a conspiracy etc.

Fuck ’em

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

berba would have filled his and rooneys boots

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

sidney said:
They’re gonna whinge regardless though, Alf

There will always be contentious decisions over the course of a season that you can point to and say that’s the reason they won the league, or its a conspiracy etc.

Fuck ’em

aye
didn’t you lot know that we have bought off the refs and their families, the FA are in united’s pay, SAF is really a hypnotist etc

sidney - April 8, 2012 Reply

Why doesn’t the QPR fella protest? He just takes the red card and walks off

He gives Young a nudge, and Young is flying, so it knocks him off balance (although he made more of it), but a red is harsh – you’d think he’d complain

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

sidney said:
Why doesn’t the QPR fella protest? He just takes the red card and walks off

He gives Young a nudge, and Young is flying, so it knocks him off balance (although he made more of it), but a red is harsh – you’d think he’d complain

obviously from the corinthian school of footie
either that or guilt complex

Alfonso Bedoya - April 8, 2012 Reply

sidney said:
They’re gonna whinge regardless though, Alf

There will always be contentious decisions over the course of a season that you can point to and say that’s the reason they won the league, or its a conspiracy etc.

Fuck ’em

Totally agree Sid, but I still don’t like it.

Did you see Mancinis latest complaint?… He needs more money, to build a bigger/better squad… like United.

DeadRevel - April 8, 2012 Reply

Honestly, when I heard that from Mancini I actually felt really angry. They are just an odious club without any sense of fair play.

oh and fuck them about the decision today. I would rather it hadn’t have happened because I’m sure we’d be battering them 10 or 11 men.

Hope we fucking batter them now. Just to soul fuck City and the other ABU bitters.

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

can’t relax until we get another

madmax - April 8, 2012 Reply

Alfonso Bedoya said:
Did you see Mancinis latest complaint?… He needs more money, to build a bigger/better squad… like United.

what a clueless man

Alfonso Bedoya - April 8, 2012 Reply

“We lost Yaya and Kolo Toure for the African Nations Cup, had some injuries and lost Vincent Kompany, Joleon Lescott and Sergio Aguero in the last two games,” bemoaned Mancini.

“Maybe next year if we lose two important players, we can have another two good players and we can change.

“Up to now, we have plugged away at building a strong team, so now I think three or four more players with a strong mentality will be enough to finish it.

“The difference is in 20 players, not the 11, and because they are used to staying on top, they play without problems.

“We maybe need time – but we have already arrived as one of the best teams in Europe.

“The difference with United is in their squad, not their starting eleven. Because they are used to always being at the top they can play without problems and they don’t have the pressure we have, because they have won everything.

“When you play against a team like United, that is the difference – not the players.”

DeadRevel - April 8, 2012 Reply

Fucking cunt. What a whinging useless cunt he is.

sidney - April 8, 2012 Reply

Alfonso Bedoya said:
Totally agree Sid, but I still don’t like it.

Did you see Mancinis latest complaint?… He needs more money, to build a bigger/better squad… like United.

Lol he takes the piss. He’s been allowed to cherry pick players for the last couple of seasons, and its still not enough.

DeadRevel - April 8, 2012 Reply

Come on Welbeck… needs to find that confidence he had early in the season. Should have been on target that one.

Violent Banana - April 8, 2012 Reply

We’re making hard work of this.

DeadRevel - April 8, 2012 Reply

Fucking hell… we’re playing shite now. Gonna be another Fulham if we’re not careful.

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

sweet pea time…

madredmonkey - April 8, 2012 Reply

Come on United score.

Violent Banana - April 8, 2012 Reply

What a miss ffs

DeadRevel - April 8, 2012 Reply

FUCK ME NOOOOOO RAFAEL

sidney - April 8, 2012 Reply

Fuck off, how did he miss that

DeadRevel - April 8, 2012 Reply

Oh fuck…. gonna be one of those games

Violent Banana - April 8, 2012 Reply

And then Welbeck, bloody hell

sidney - April 8, 2012 Reply

That was Welbeck’s chance to actually do something in this game

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

sidney said:
That was Welbeck’s chance to actually do something in this game

his uncle won’t be happy

Herbie Simms - April 8, 2012 Reply

Time to bring on super sub Hernandez or go out and find Berbatov. Should at least put 6 past a crap QPR!

brianofnazareth - April 8, 2012 Reply

Lack of cutting edge makes me crazy!

Welbeck is shocking!

Violent Banana - April 8, 2012 Reply

SCHOLES DEAR GOD THAT WAS HOT

DeadRevel - April 8, 2012 Reply

SCHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLES!!11

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

schhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhholes
(about fking time too)

brianofnazareth - April 8, 2012 Reply

Thank fuck!!

madredmonkey - April 8, 2012 Reply

About time.

sidney - April 8, 2012 Reply

That’s why Scholes starts in these games and Cleverley doesn’t

madmax - April 8, 2012 Reply

It was almost inevitable today

Alfonso Bedoya - April 8, 2012 Reply

Scholes… that strike was for Vieira.

sidney - April 8, 2012 Reply

Was Raf just booked for slipping?

Violent Banana - April 8, 2012 Reply

ITS A CONSPIRACY

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

sidney said:
Was Raf just booked for slipping?

handball apparently

sidney - April 8, 2012 Reply

Carrick, fucking hell, what brought that on?

sidney - April 8, 2012 Reply

han said:
handball apparently

Ah

ichiro - April 8, 2012 Reply

why Carrick doesnt shoot more often is a mystery

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

that would have been a beauty from carrick

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

sidney said:
Ah

you’re welcome

madredmonkey - April 8, 2012 Reply

We should have scored more.

madmax - April 8, 2012 Reply

Rooney has been kind of shite in the 2nd half

Alfonso Bedoya - April 8, 2012 Reply

madredmonkey said:
We should have scored more.

Yep… good result, but not a great performance.

madredmonkey - April 8, 2012 Reply

Alfonso Bedoya said:
Yep… good result, but not a great performance.

Agree.

Violent Banana - April 8, 2012 Reply

Thought we looked more lively before the sending off; once that happened it was more like a training game

han - April 8, 2012 Reply

didn’t really need to step out of 2nd gear
no injuries
another game ticked off the list and 3 points
over to you bitters

madredmonkey - April 8, 2012 Reply

han said:
didn’t really need to step out of 2nd gear
no injuries
another game ticked off the list and 3 points
over to you bitters

sidney - April 8, 2012 Reply

A win in first gear is just what we need ahead of Wednesday’s game

DeadRevel - April 8, 2012 Reply

To be fair I thought that was a pretty good performance. Completely dominated from start to finish, they didn’t have a decent chance for 90 minutes. We looked even better before the sending off… must be a conspiracy to make us play worse.

Cleverley looked sharp when he came on. Carrick and Evans great again.

sheesh - April 8, 2012 Reply

Turned on talkshite on way home and they were discussing ashley young’s dive. I must admit, that was poor form from him and we shouldn’t be resorting to such poor behaviour. We should be better than that. Harsh on QPR to lose a player when one of our own has cheated.

Now when young is genuinely fouled, ref will decide against him if it is deemed to be a 50-50. What is the point?

DeadRevel - April 8, 2012 Reply

Talkscum are desperate for any chance to moan. I wonder if Stan Collybollocks will suggest Balotelli deserves a game ban for that violent assault? Doubt it.

uncleknobheadforfucksake - April 8, 2012 Reply

we need more xfactor, too much just getting it wide and ploughing it in

DeadRevel - April 8, 2012 Reply

Agreed. Though it was noticeable when Cleverley came on that penetration through the centre is exactly what he was trying to create. Lot of possession around the box, not enough through balls or little dinks.

Spudiator - April 8, 2012 Reply

I fucking hate TalkSport! Stan Collymore’s voice is so irritatingly dreary, and the entire match they obsessively went on about the penalty incident as if there was literally nothing else to merit mentioning for the entire first half! I haven’t actually seen the incident yet, so I can’t comment, but they really were starting to sound like a broken record!

uncleknobheadforfucksake - April 8, 2012 Reply

well he’s right to go on about it when its three shite decisions in one and ended the game after 15 mins

DeadRevel - April 8, 2012 Reply

He isn’t right to say players should be banned for 6 games for diving. He’s a shite pundit. And I’m not one of those people who rips into every pundit.

The point is that they only get all moral about football when it involves Untied. If it had been QPR V Swansea, no-one would be talking about it.

sheesh - April 8, 2012 Reply

Spudiator said:
I fucking hate TalkSport! Stan Collymore’s voice is so irritatingly dreary, and the entire match they obsessively went on about the penalty incident as if there was literally nothing else to merit mentioning for the entire first half! I haven’t actually seen the incident yet, so I can’t comment, but they really were starting to sound like a broken record!

To be fair to QPR and, with regard to their league situation, it’s these sorts of decisions that can cost you big time. Forget about today’s result, they’ve lost one of their key players for their next match.
We probably would have won the game anyway, but that’s besides the point.

DeadRevel - April 8, 2012 Reply

GET IN YOU BEEEAAAAUUTTYYY!!!1

I love Arsenal!

Violent Banana - April 8, 2012 Reply

Who’s that man from Argentina…..

Denton Davey - April 8, 2012 Reply

uncleknobheadforfuckssake @ 4:43: “we need more xfactor, too much just getting it wide and ploughing it in”

That’s why Nani needs to start WHENEVER he’s healthy.

DeadRevel - April 8, 2012 Reply

To replace who? Valencia? I’d happily give him a place on the left wing but Young is more effective and consistent there. If only Nani or Valencia were left sided wingers…

Unless he can play in midfield?

Denton Davey - April 8, 2012 Reply

Carlos Tevez plays “when he wants”; Mario Balotelli “plays with himself”.

danniitronix - April 8, 2012 Reply

Disgraceful decision only topped by 75mins of wishy washy teenage school girl tampax excuse for epl champions.

Hopefully fa use this as an excuse to sort out officials and diving.

Gabagool - April 9, 2012 Reply

Imagine how good we’d be if we had a decent striker?
Welbeck still very much a work in progress, and wasteful.
Hernandez overrated and purely a super sub.
Berba

Gabagool - April 9, 2012 Reply

Berbatov unfortunately out of favour and just doesn’t fit our style.
Owen a sick note.
One top midfielder and one top striker this summer please Fergie.

brianofnazareth - April 9, 2012 Reply

Agree in regards to needing a new striker, let Owen go. Berba will be gone this summer, Hernandez will come good but he is a finsher and not ready yet. Welbeck…..FFS I just don’t get what people see in him, he can’t stay on his feet, he’s wasteful and not worthy of leading the line for a top 4 Premier league team, he is not the man to win us European titles!

Valencia, Nani and Young are enough for us on the wings.

We do need that creative spark in the middle of the pitch.

With Johnny Evans showing us some spunk we’re OK for defenders, though with the twin being made of glass we could do with a right back.

So to sum up, WORLD class striker, creative genius and a top quality right back.

DeadRevel - April 9, 2012 Reply

“Hernandez will come good but he is a finsher and not ready yet. Welbeck…..FFS I just don’t get what people see in him”

This is wrong on every possible level.

And we don’t need a right back. We have Rafael… & Smalling /Jones / Fabio / Valencia as back ups.

Alfonso Bedoya - April 9, 2012 Reply

No new signings… at least none that we actually want.

Both Scholes and Giggs will stay another year… Fletcher will come back, and Cleverly will be given his chance at a full, fit season… Anderson???

Striker??? Maybe… but I’d expect a cheap young prospect before anyone substantial.

DeadRevel - April 9, 2012 Reply

Don’t need another striker. Giggs and Scholes staying is a good thing, as long as we invest in a new young midfielder as well.
Doubt Fergie will buy another striker, especially a young one – we have three first team strikers already as well as Macheda and Keane if we need them. Also have Young and Nani who can play with a striker up front if needs be.

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