Trio set for Wigan recall



Sir Alex Ferguson will rotate his playing staff as Manchester United look to take another significant step towards the Premier League title with victory at Wigan Athletic on Wednesday. The United manager has not yet proclaimed United champions, but with the Reds eight points clear and just six games to go, victory at Wigan would surely remove any lingering doubt. However, the 70-year-old coach is likely to freshen up his side, with Chris Smalling, Tom Cleverley and Nani all seeking a recall at the DW Stadium.

United will make the short trip in buoyant mood after 11 wins in the past 12 Premier League fixtures – not to mention a perfect record against the Latics in the past 14 meetings. Few in the United camp will be in any mood to change that series with a title on the line.

While City will aim to extend the race another week by beating West Bromwich Albion at Eastlands on Wednesday, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that United will secure a 20th domestic title in the coming weekend. That would required City to lose twice, while United must take maximum points over the next four days.

First though United must secure three points at Wigan – a ground that has brought much joy to Reds in recent seasons. Ferguson’s side secured the title at the DW in 2008, while a late Michael Carrick strike brought a dramatic United win a year later.

However, Winger Ashley Young says that his United team-mates must stay focused against relegation-threatened Wigan, with the title not yet officially secured.

“Wigan is a tough place to go to – they’re desperate for points and will want to win in front of their own fans,” said Young, who has been heavily criticised for diving against Queens Park Rangers last week.

“We’ve got to be on our toes and be ready for a tough game. I’m sure if we can show the confidence, desire and winning mentality we’ve shown throughout the season, we’ll get the win. I scored my last goal for Villa against Wigan last season at Villa Park and also scored against them away from home, so I’ve enjoyed some decent results against them. Hopefully there will be another to follow tonight.

“We’re just ticking the games off as we go along and staying focused on each one. You obviously want to play well, but at this stage of the season it’s more about results. You just want the three points from every game. We’re eight points clear at the moment but that could end up meaning nothing if we don’t keep our run going.”

Wigan Athletic versus Manchester United, Premier League, DW Stadium, 11 April 2012, 7.45pmWith that in mind Ferguson is likely to freshen up his side, with Paul Scholes and Rio Ferdinand likely to be rested. Smalling and Cleverley could take the veterans places, while Nani is fit to play despite not making the bench for United’s victory over QPR. Ryan Giggs, Javier Hernández, and Phil Jones are also in contention for a recall.

Ferguson has no fresh injuries to report, with only long-term absentees Michael Owen, Darren Fletcher, Anderson and captain Nemanja Vidić definitely out.

Meanwhile, Wigan manager Roberto Martinez is again likely to be without striker Hugo Rodallega, who has a knee injury. However, Victor Moses is fit despite suffering a knock against Chelsea last weekend, while , while former Reds David Jones is close to making a return.

Despite United’s outstanding record against Wigan in recent years the Latics have regained some short-term form, securing wins against Liverpool and Stoke City in the past month. Martinez’ side was also desperately unlucky in defeat at Stamford Bridge last weekend, where refereeing decisions went squarely against the relegation threatened Latics.

“The performances we have had at Anfield and Stamford Bridge this season have got rid of that block,” said Martinez, of his players’ renewed confidence in facing leading sides.

“Against Manchester United you have to be perfect and we know now we can be perfect against these sides. Mentally we are ready for that. We are desperate to test ourselves against them and we are hoping for a bit of luck we have not had over the last few weeks or in the last few games against Manchester United.”

But with the Reds sniffing yet another title it will be a major shock if United does not secure a win on Wednesday night, especially with former Latics winger Antonio Valencia in such outstanding form. Valencia was seen as an unlikely United signing when he moved for £14 million nearly three years ago, but has proven a key weapon in the Reds’ title charge this season.

“If you speak with anyone who worked with Antonio here, they will tell you what an extraordinary character he is,” adds Martinez.

“We all know the quality he has got and now he looks a fresh player. I think Antonio looks a real threat. He looks really sharp and he is enjoying his football, at his best level. It seems as though he has been a key man in every fixture he has played and we are all very happy on one hand, because Antonio left a massive stamp on the football club. But on the other hand we hope he has a bit of a day off against us.”

That seems unlikely in a player who is enjoying the most productive spell of an increasingly fine career. Adding another Premier League title into the mix will do little harm for the modest Valencia’s reputation.

Match details
Wigan Athletic versus Manchester United, Premier League, DW Stadium, 11 April 2012, 7.45pm.

Potential Line-ups
Wigan (5-2-3): Al Habsi; Beausejour, Caldwell, Alcaraz, Boyce, Figueroa; Diamé, McCarthy; Moses, Di Santo, Maloney. Subs from: Kirkland, Stam, Crusat, Watson, Gomez, Diame, Sammon, McArthur, Watson.

United (4-4-1-1): De Gea; Jones, Evans, Smalling, Evra; Valencia, Carrick, Cleverley, Giggs; Rooney, Hernández. Subs from: Amos, Rafael, Fabio, Ferdinand, Nani, Pogba, Welbeck, Berbatov.

Form
Wigan: LDDWWL
United: WLWWWW

Officials
Referee: Phil Dowd (Stoke)
Assistants: S Long, D Richardson
Fourth Official: J Moss

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  • bman

    Cleverly and Carrick have a lot of potential as a midfield two. Don’t know how good Cleverly will prove to be, but he looks more skilful than the other more “mobile” players we’ve had to pair with Carrick in recent seasons – Fletch, Fat Ando, etc. Hopefully he starts today and shows some quality.

  • DeadRevel

    I want Cleverley and Nani to get some minutes. Just hope they aren’t too ‘eager’ to impress. Clev did seem that way when he came on last weekend but still played well, and Nani always seems a bit desperate when he’s been left out instead of Valencia.

  • sidney

    I hope Nani plays

    Starting to think he might be off in summer

    • DeadRevel

      Why? And where?
      He has been injured you know, it’s not like Berba-gate. I suppose there is the Valencia ‘problem’ if you can call it that… but I’d hate to lose another talented, albeit frustrating player unless we can replace him with a talented non-frustrating player.

  • sidney

    Fergie said he was ready a while ago, he just hasn’t featured.
    XI:
    De Gea
    Jones
    Ferdinand
    Evans
    Evra
    Valencia
    Carrick
    Giggs
    Young
    Rooney
    Hernandez
    Subs: Amos, Smalling, Pogba, Cleverley, Park, Nani, Welbeck.
    Nani, at last. But no Scholes.

  • ltel

    ed was close to the lineup… good side out.. no fucking about tonight

  • brianofnazareth

    Any links so far ladies?

  • http://www.sourceofgravity.com Bill
  • sheesh

    Should win this comfortably.

  • brianofnazareth

    sheesh said:
    Should win this comfortably.

    FFS, what a cunt!

    Got a link spunk bubble?

  • Alfonso Bedoya
  • sheesh

    brianofnazareth said:
    FFS, what a cunt!
    Got a link spunk bubble?

    XXXX
    This is the link I’m using: http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/118366/2/watch-wigan-athletic-vs-manchester-united.html

    • DeadRevel

      No defenders on the bench?

      :/

      Come on United… no fucking about tonight. Dodgy penalty in the first 5 minutes will do nicely.

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Ferguson very hands on tonight.

  • brianofnazareth

    Thanks Alf, fucking sky internet slow as shite! can’t wait for BT infinity!

    • DeadRevel

      Stop complaining you cunt, I’ve got a mobile internet dongle. An internet dildo would be more effective.

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    sheesh said:
    XXXX

    This is the link I’m using: http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/118366/2/watch-wigan-athletic-vs-manchester-united.html

    That link is for cunts!

    • DeadRevel

      I clicked on it as soon as I read that comment.

      First Row Sports xxx <3

  • han

    Commenter said:
    Stop complaining you cunt, I’ve got a mobile internet dongle. An internet dildo would be more effective.

    ask brian to lend u his
    if he can take it out of his arse that is…

  • sheesh

    Stadium’s empty FFS.

  • han

    sheesh said:
    Stadium’s empty FFS.

    18000 tops according to the commentators on radio 5

  • brianofnazareth

    Looks like these cunts are up for it, we need an early 2 goals!

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Tevez starting tonight for the miserables.

  • sheesh

    Talk about starting the game on the backfoot…

  • bman

    Looks like our lads have being believing their own hype, they’re looking a tad complacent and dozy.

  • brianofnazareth

    Need to wake the fuck up. Champions already? Fuck off!

  • bman

    They’re definitely going for the “rough up De Gea” tactic.

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Bitters up 1-0

  • DeadRevel

    City have scored, Aguero.

    Wigan look bright…. probably just running on pure optimism at the moment.

  • bman

    Hernandez really is shit. Quality striker would have loved the opportunity Giggs just gave him.

  • han

    bman said:
    Hernandez really is shit. Quality striker would have loved the opportunity Giggs just gave him.

    he just doesn’t look the same whenever he starts a game as opposed to coming off the bench when he just looks so much more at ease with his role

  • brianofnazareth

    bman said:
    Hernandez really is shit. Quality striker would have loved the opportunity Giggs just gave him.

    Yeah should play Welbeck…… * Sniggers *

  • brianofnazareth

    There is only one team who look like scoring first….

    • DeadRevel

      Ferguson rightfully resting Welbeck for more important games.

  • bman

    brianofnazareth said:
    Yeah should play Welbeck…… * Sniggers *

    Well at least he can pass the ball. This looks like a job for the Bulgarian porn star to me.

    Giggs and Young our best players so far.

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Fuckin hell… Fergies nose looks especially purple tonight.

  • sidney

    Fergie is up & down, he’s not happy

  • sheesh

    We are poor.

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    WTF… Wigan playing a very cynical, pissy game here.

  • DeadRevel

    Can’t find a stream and we’re playing shite.

  • bman

    Hernandez off, Cleverly on please. Shore up central midfield, Cleverly’s got the pace and close control to beat this pressing. Hernandez will be useless up top by the looks of things anyway.

  • brianofnazareth
  • bman

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    WTF… Wigan playing a very cynical, pissy game here.

    They’re fighting for their lives though, I can’t blame them.

  • han

    bman said:
    They’re fighting for their lives though, I can’t blame them.

    and we should be fighting for the title instead of pissing about thinking its done and dusted

  • DeadRevel

    What’s happened?

    Disallowed? More referee favouritism?

  • sheesh

    We have been fucking shit, letting Wigan dominate possession like this. Midfield needs to get into the game.

  • bman

    I don’t really know the rules on this kind of thing, but the Wigan player was definitely barging De Gea about.

    • DeadRevel

      It’s happened all season – we should have had free kicks before now for that.

      Wigan playing like Bilbao – I’m sure Martinez has watched and taken notes on those games.

  • brianofnazareth

    Early celebrations it looks like, could be a 5 point gap by tonight and we still have to play City at their ground… not looking so easy now is it!

  • sidney

    Was it for the foul on De Gea

  • Spudiator

    The rival fans are gonna bitch until the end of time about us getting favourable decisions, but I actually thought the linesman got that spot-on. Caldwell looked like he was clearly restraining de Gea’s movement there.

  • bman

    At this rate we’ll be lucky to see out the half safely.

  • sheesh

    Anyone got a decent link? My stream’s died on its arse.

  • brianofnazareth

    Half time cannot come quick enough! FFS, Sheesh you jinx twat!

  • uncleknobheadforfucksake

    this shiteness is all because of giggs, he cant play cm anymore, he just stands and waits for waits for us to get the ball back before he does something

  • han

    uncleknobheadforfucksake said:
    this shiteness is all because of giggs, he cant play cm anymore, he just stands and waits for waits for us to get the ball back before he does something

    so now u have tired of slagging berba off, i see you have moved on to giggs

  • Gabagool

    Evans having a shocker tonight, can see him getting sent off…
    Hernandez is pants I’m afraid, as is Giggs in CM.
    Squeaky bum time tinight

  • sidney

    Never seen Wigan play like this, they’re aving it

  • brianofnazareth

    sheesh said:
    Anyone got a decent link? My stream’s died on its arse.

    FFS, jinx twat.

    http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/118366/2/watch-wigan-athletic-vs-manchester-united.html

  • han

    shame no berba on the bench
    at least he can hold the ball up
    we look like we have had the champagne on the team bus before the match

  • bman

    I don’t want to overhype Cleverly, but I do think he’d be the right choice here, brought on for Hernandez probably. It would give us more bodies in midfield without Rooney being pulled back away from their goal. Plus he’s got pace, neat control, and a good habit of running straight into the danger zone – he’d make Wigan foul him in dangerous areas and pick up cards too. Regardless of Hernandez’s own qualities, don’t see much point on keeping him on if he’s not going to see much ball at all.

    • Gabagool

      Jesus. 37% possession that half.
      Need Clev on for giggs and anyone for Hernandez.

  • bman

    sheesh said:
    Anyone got a decent link? My stream’s died on its arse.

    working alright for me:
    http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/45506/1/wigan-athletic-vs-manchester-united-live-stream-online.html

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Unbelievable possession stats…

  • sidney

    Not the game for 38 year old in midfield

  • ltel

    getting a grip now.. woken p at half time

  • sheesh

    Thanks, I have a working link now.

    I can’t believe how slow we are tonight. We need some pace in this team. Get the ball moving more quickly.

  • brianofnazareth

    What’s happened to Rooney? he looks fucked.

  • han

    SAF needs to recall that hairdryer from OT pdq for his half time “chat” with the boys

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Well that was horrible…

    Sort it out Fergie, ffs…

  • brianofnazareth

    Well, positives…. we can’t get much worse!

    I hope Fergie rips into those twats!

  • sheesh

    Bloody awful 1st half. I’m happy we’re at least still level. I think we got lucky for the disallowed goal. I feel sorry for Wigan with the decisions that have gone against them.

  • sidney

    Rooney is having one those games where he can’t pass the ball and ruins attacking moves

  • han

    getting a win out of this is going to take something much better than what has been offered thus far
    wigan will tire and create some gaps but this will be a difficult 2nd half

  • sheesh

    See how shit we are without Scholes. It’s like night and day.

    • Will

      Scholes is the rhythm of the team, agreed.

  • han

    twats on radio 5 saying de gea at fault for their disallowed goal by moving into their defender as opposed to vice versa

  • sheesh

    han said:
    twats on radio 5 saying de gea at fault for their disallowed goal by moving into their defender as opposed to vice versa

    There was nothing wrong with that goal. That was a dreadful decision. If United had a goal like that disallowed, I’d be fuming.

  • DeadRevel

    Wigan doing a Bilbao.
    Martinez the genius Spanish twat.

    Giggs has been poor in half the games he’s played this season. Against energetic midfields he is useless. Need Cleverley, maybe Nani and Welbeck.

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    I don’t see what was wrong with their goal… and the conspiracy nuts are going to be gnashing their teeth… the fix is in for United.

    Fergie needs to get them fired up, because they’re second best on every lose ball… Wigan for fuck sake… they’re not outplaying us… they’re just out working us.

  • han

    agree deadrevel
    hope they turn up at the start of the 2nd half too

  • sidney

    Cleverley is coming on according to FIve Live

    Not sure for who

  • brianofnazareth

    Bring Nani on and Park/Cleve

  • DeadRevel

    De Gea has been fouled like that all season. Haven’t seen the one tonight but even if it’s the wrong decision, it’s called karma. Don’t expect this point to be made.

  • sheesh

    sidney said:
    Cleverley is coming on according to FIve Live
    Not sure for who

    Young coming off. So Giggs being shifted wide left and Cleverley alongside Carrick.
    Edit – looks like I’m wrong about where these players are playing. Rooney on the left. WTF.

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Cleverly on for someone…

  • sidney

    Clev on for Young

    Young has spent most of his time defending

    Might be a bit open now

  • han

    doubt even if we had 12 men out there it would make any difference in that 1st half

  • ltel

    for young is weird, in ferg we trust

  • madredmonkey

    Just got in, Come on United.

  • han

    madredmonkey said:
    Just got in, Come on United.

    should have stayed out
    played like shite
    very poor

  • bman

    Don’t know why he took off Young, I thought he looked fairly lively and was one of our most active players in the dismal first half.

  • sheesh

    Where on earth is Nani these days? He’s been out for fucking ages now and it’s beginning to piss me off.

  • ltel

    on the bench..

  • DeadRevel

    Pressure off City – they play well.

    Pressure off United – we play poorly.

    Story of the fucking season. Well the pressure’s back on you twats so go and win the game.

  • madredmonkey

    han said:
    should have stayed out
    played like shite
    very poor

    Hope i bring some luck with me.

  • sheesh

    Shit.

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Fuck!!!!

  • madredmonkey

    oh no.

  • ltel

    fuck offffffffffffffffffffffff

  • brianofnazareth

    Well deserved. 1-0 Wigan.

  • ltel

    smashing gaol though

  • bman

    Fuck it’s like watching the CL final against Barca again…

  • sheesh

    Typical United. Why win the league the easy way even when our nearest challengers are trying to gift wrap the title for us?

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Maybe we’ll start fuckin getting involved now!

  • sheesh

    Their keeper could have taken out a newspaper and had a good read for the little he’s had to do tonight.

    Disgraceful performances.

  • bman

    Hernandez just isn’t good enough. Last season’s looking like a massive fluke.

  • madmax

    Hernandez is such a useless cunt

  • DeadRevel

    Apparently it shouldn’t have been a corner – it was a goal kick.

    Wigan fluked it….

    • gaz

      Fluked it my arse they were the better team

  • bman

    It’s amazing Wigan are in the relegation battle on the basis I’ve what I’ve seen so far.

  • sheesh

    In hindsight, it might have been a good idea to play Park. At least he tries to win the ball.

  • DeadRevel

    4-0 to City… fucking hell. Bad to worse.

  • madmax

    Vity have just scored their 4th

  • Gabagool

    I’m sorry but Giggs is fucking awful tonight, and where the deck has our width been tonight? Non existent.
    Terrible performance.
    Rooney off?!? WTF

  • brianofnazareth

    We could play for 2 days and not win this. Very disappointing, United just cannot do it the easy way.

    How shite has Phil Jones gone too? and Rooney. FFS.

    • Will

      Can’t see why Ferguson broke up the burgeoning partnership of Rafael and Valencia, unless Rafael had a knock..

  • sheesh

    Evans has reverted to type tonight. Shite.

  • brianofnazareth

    City 4-0 up, there goes the goal difference!

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Oh ffs… here we go… Nani… why pass the ball, when I can just run about with it, like a stupid cunt?

  • madmax

    Even now they are the one’s playing with more hunger

  • Gabagool

    Have we had a shot on goal yet tonight?

  • brianofnazareth

    We need at least a fucking draw you cunts!

  • DeadRevel

    fcking handball…..

    should have been a penalty to United.

  • han

    handball missed by the same linesman

  • sheesh

    Crossing is shite.

  • bman

    C’mon lads let’s fucking do this

  • han

    come on united
    score

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    NANI YOU FUCKIN ASSHOLE PASS THE FUCKIN BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!

    “Badges, to god-damned hell with badges! We have no badges. In fact, we don’t need badges. I don’t have to show you any stinking badges, you god-damned cabrón and ching’ tu madre! Come out from that shit-hole of yours. I have to speak to you.”

  • madmax

    Wellbeck is the new Saha in having brain freeze once inside the box

  • sheesh

    So the gameplan was to fanny around for 75 mins and then make a game of it with 15 mins left.

  • brianofnazareth

    That “non” given pen makes up for the QPR… or so Dowd has decided.

    The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits…..

  • bman

    sheesh said:
    So the gameplan was to fanny around for 75 mins and then make a game of it with 15 mins left.

    Plan A, in other words.

  • han

    we are so fucking missing the ginger ninja

  • madredmonkey

    Come on United.

  • sheesh

    Defence is getting cut to ribbons here.

  • madmax

    this is ridiculous

  • brianofnazareth

    Fuck this. Night all.

  • han

    and this is why SAF needed berba on the bench

  • sheesh

    Carrick you fucking idiot. His worst game of the season.

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Fuck sake Fergie… what have these cunts been practicing this week… polishing their johnsons?

  • madredmonkey

    Score ffs.

  • http://twitter.com/dosdamt Ben Hulston

    utterly fucking abominable. utterly and completely embarrassing. We’ve fucking let City right back into this now and they’ll fucking smell blood, and will find another yard in their legs. Fucking. Awful. Completely, and utterly, unforgiveable. That shower of complete shite should be embarrassed.

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    What a pathetic performance…

    Passing, work rate, shooting, defending, shite, shite, shite!

    The Bitters were all but finished… this will lift them no end!

  • DeadRevel

    This was always going to happen at some point…. fucking wank.

  • han

    all we needed to do was beat this team tonight and instead we fucked ourselves in the arses

  • madmax

    we got what we deserved. fucking cunts

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Hang your heads in shame, you fuckin cocks!

  • ltel

    total bollocks.. cant play the ball out of defence unless scholes is playing.. that is fucking awful,

  • sheesh

    Title race has been blown wide open. I cannot believe they put in such a pathetic performance.

    Giggs must never play in CM ever again. Fucking awful.

    Typical United.

  • han

    we haven’t played at even half the level we should have played
    credit to wigan on their game plan
    players need a good kicking after that
    believed that the title was done and dusted and against wigan it was going to be a walk in the park
    bitters have fuck all to lose now and will go for it
    we still have it all to do
    fucking bollocks

  • http://twitter.com/dosdamt Ben Hulston

    Everything was wrong. Wrong selection, wrong tactics, missing berbatov, midfield gash, what the fuck was Giggs doing? utterly atrocious. Seriously the worst performance of the season at absolutely the wrong fucking time

    i blame all yous talking like its won. Those fucking bellends in the shirts tonight probably believed that fucking hype too.

  • sidney

    That’s the worst we’ve played all season, and one of the worst performances from a United side
    Not one player could keep the ball
    Carrick, Giggs, Welbeck… Rooney was an abomination first half and I’m glad he was subbed

  • sheesh

    When is Fergie going to learn that Jones is not a fucking right back?
    We had a settled side and then he chops and changes it.
    If you are going to chop and change, show some respect for the opposition.

  • han

    Ben Hulston said:
    Everything was wrong. Wrong selection, wrong tactics, missing berbatov, midfield gash, what the fuck was Giggs doing? utterly atrocious. Seriously the worst performance of the season at absolutely the wrong fucking time

    i blame all yous talking like its won. Those fucking bellends in the shirts tonight probably believed that fucking hype too.

    we have fuck all to offer in terms of experience in hernandez and welbeck
    the only player who is out in the cold is berba who can change things around or even just hold the ball up top
    and yet the fucking knobends on rant slag him off constantly saying he has no bollox and is only good against the dross
    well where the fuck was he today then?
    abject bollockless head shoved up each others arses thats what we got tonight
    no passion until its too late
    5 points doesnt look so rosy – those fannies on here with their chirping about the title- go fuck off and start praying we havent fucked ourselves

  • brianofnazareth

    I did shut the iPad down and leave but I’m so fucking angry how these fucking cunts can put a show on like that I need to vent! City will beat us come derby day and you’re only talking 2 points, anyone still feel we’re certs?

    We ALL know this united team is shite and that if we do win the title it would prob be Fergies greatest but still frustrating as fuck!!

    Jones has gone to dog shit.
    Giggs finally needs to accept his fate and leave (hopefully as a winner)
    Rooney is fucked way off form and his hair transplant needs refunding!
    Anyone who thinks Cleverly is the next big thing then you’re deluded! I’d rather give Pogba a shot!
    Agree with most Hernandez is tripe he’s on par with Welbeck!!

    Arghhhh!!!!!

  • DeadRevel

    Well I thought we played quite well.

  • madredmonkey

    they always make us suffer.

  • sidney

    Why does Fergie insist on playing Giggs in midfield against teams who play with a high tempo

    We just get done

  • DeadRevel

    Welbeck has been shit for a couple of months but why can’t you just fucking it leave it….

    People have been making excuses for City saying it’s their first title challenge and that’s why they’ve tailed off… so why don’t you give the same sympathy to Welbeck / Jones?

    Tonight was a horror show but we’ve won 12 our of the last 13 league games haven’t we? Always going to lose at some point.

    If we beat Villa on Sunday we’ll win the league. We’re not going to play that shite again.

    Agree about Giggs though… his good moments are vast;y outweighed by shocking ones. Scholes should stay, Giggs should leave. And Fergie has really fucked up by isolating Berbatov.

  • han

    all this talk about experience of winning the title is trite if our players play like the bunch of cunts today
    SAF is fucking livid with that i am pretty sure but where the fuck was the experience from rooney, giggs, carrick, rio and evra?
    fucking pissed away tonight

  • shauno

    Get a grip! Shit performance was on it’s way. Suck it up and move on. Villa at home followed by Everton at home. SAF said both teams will drop points in the run in and here it is. Still 5 points clear at this point in the season I’ll take that. If the loss mean’t that it took the initiative out of our hands then I’d agree that the title is wide open. But at this point it isn’t. Still needs city to do what they haven’t done all season and thats pull together some convincing away form. They have Norwich and Newcastle away with Newcastle chasing a UCL spot. I think we have enough to see this out.

  • sheesh

    We have to beat Everton and Villa…and not fuck up on derby day.

  • han

    Commenter said:
    Welbeck has been shit for a couple of months but why can’t you just fucking it leave it….

    People have been making excuses for City saying it’s their first title challenge and that’s why they’ve tailed off… so why don’t you give the same sympathy to Welbeck / Jones?

    Tonight was a horror show but we’ve won 12 our of the last 13 league games haven’t we? Always going to lose at some point.

    If we beat Villa on Sunday we’ll win the league. We’re not going to play that shite again.

    Agree about Giggs though… his good moments are vast;y outweighed by shocking ones. Scholes should stay, Giggs should leave. And Fergie has really fucked up by isolating Berbatov.

    he needs to be recalled for sunday immediately
    though i doubt it will happen
    fuck knows what he has done to deserve being shat on by saf
    welbeck and sweet pea have fuck all experience and it is showing now

    • DeadRevel

      “Manchester City boss Roberto Mancini: “The title race is finished because United is a fantastic team and they have a fantastic spirit. I think five points is too much.””

      What an odious cunt. Changed his tune hasn’t he… got to be the most transparent mind game ever attempted by a manager. First they are going to win it, then they are not, then they have a chance, now they’ve closed the gap we’re back to ‘United will win it…’.

  • han

    Commenter said:
    Get a grip! Shit performance was on it’s way. Suck it up and move on. Villa at home followed by Everton at home. SAF said both teams will drop points in the run in and here it is. Still 5 points clear at this point in the season I’ll take that. If the loss mean’t that it took the initiative out of our hands then I’d agree that the title is wide open. But at this point it isn’t. Still needs city to do what they haven’t done all season and thats pull together some convincing away form. They have Norwich and Newcastle away with Newcastle chasing a UCL spot. I think we have enough to see this out.

    not if we play like cunts as we did tonight
    we still have the initiative but yet again doing it the hard way

  • madredmonkey

    this might be a massive wake up call for the players, they now know that they have to perform.

  • Dinkinflicker

    madredmonkey said:
    this might be a massive wake up call for the players, they now know that they have to perform.

    If they didn’t know that already then we could end up in massive fucking trouble.

    Taken to school by fucking Wigan.

    I hope Fergie is ripping their balls off as we speak. Its not a given that city will win the derby, though I suspect they will. If they do, our safety net is worth fuck all given their goal difference advantage.

    Big weekend coming up. Time for Scholes and Berba to come back in and provide a bit of composure.

  • Bill

    Lacking in quality tonight, not to mention some fight.

    Scholes and BERBATOV sorely missed.

    Surely the latter deserves to at least go on the bench considering Hernandez and Welbeck’s complete lack of form.

    Luckily we have Villa on Sunday and should be able to get a win on the board against the poorest Villa side for years.

    We have Villa (H), then Everton (H) prior to the big derby, City Norwich (A), Wolves (H).

    We should still be 5 points ahead prior to the derby.

    Our last two games: Swansea (H), Sunderland (A)
    City’s: Newcastle (A), QPR (H)

  • han

    Commenter said:
    “Manchester City boss Roberto Mancini: “The title race is finished because United is a fantastic team and they have a fantastic spirit. I think five points is too much.””

    What an odious cunt. Changed his tune hasn’t he… got to be the most transparent mind game ever attempted by a manager. First they are going to win it, then they are not, then they have a chance, now they’ve closed the gap we’re back to ‘United will win it…’.

    this is from the same twat who said tevez would never play for him again
    nothing surprises me about the bitters
    SAF giving credit to wigan on the radio saying they are in a false position because they are playing fantastic football
    said he was disappointed with the result but it was an off day

    • DeadRevel

      Ferguson is almost always magnanimous in defeat… but I think his words will be a little less zen towards his players tonight.

      I’m expecting a punishment-benching or two against Villa. Let’s just hope it doesn’t backfire like Rooney / Blackburn.

  • Dinkinflicker

    On reflection, I don’t think Fergie will be too hard. I think he’ll use it as a reminder to the players for the need to focus and avoid complacency, but there’s a slight misbalance in our squad. We’re in a transitional phase and it’s remarkable that we’re in the position we are. He won’t stick the boot in too hard because he’ll be wary of the arse falling out of the side, particularly for those who have never really been involved in the run in. There’ll be a few harsh reminders, but he won’t want to dwell on it.

    I think he may need to call more heavily on the likes of Berba and even Park for the next couple of games. If we beat villa and city drop points at Norwich, we’ll all be much more chilled out again.

    • DeadRevel

      A few people said Park… but I remember his performance against Atheltic in the Europa league… probably the worst I’ve ever seen from him.

      Martinez Bilbaoed us tonight. Fair play to him. We can’t cope with high energy pressing. All of our players look like conference dross. Fortunately in England only 2 or 3 teams can play that style. Let’s hope we’ve won the title before we play Swansea….

  • Bill

    Hope Wigan stay up. Martinez and Whelan deserve it. Both act with integrity.

  • sheesh

    Commenter said:
    A few people said Park… but I remember his performance against Atheltic in the Europa league… probably the worst I’ve ever seen from him.
    Martinez Bilbaoed us tonight. Fair play to him. We can’t cope with high energy pressing. All of our players look like conference dross. Fortunately in England only 2 or 3 teams can play that style. Let’s hope we’ve won the title before we play Swansea….

    Park is alright provided we don’t play him in CM where he is abysmal. Evra had another shocker tonight and I think Park would have been decent cover on the left – or we could have shown more respect to Wigan and played a slightly more defensive line-up (particularly in midfield where we were vulnerable). Giggs in CM was a disaster waiting to happen. Not having someone to overlap with Valencia was a disaster waiting to happen. As was starting with Hernandez. In fact, making too many unnecessary changes and generally being complacent was what cost us.

    • DeadRevel

      Didn’t see much of the game so I’ll take your word for it re: Park.

      Evra has been average at best all season, occasionally woeful.

      And yes, why take Rafael out now he’s actually playing well and linking up with Valencia? Madness. Pointless tinkering at the crucial part of the season.

      Hernandez probably started because Welbeck has been poor recently, but the reality is they’ve both been poor, so you may as well play Welbeck who can at least hold the ball up and pass a bit.

      I understand resting Scholes but Giggs starting ahead of Cleverley in CM? FUCK THAT.

  • sheesh

    The annoying thing is that City have got games coming up where I was semi-expecting them to drop points but we’ve handed them a huge incentive to up their game.

    All that internal strife and in-fighting we’ve witnessed will probably be all forgotten now.

    They’ll have been lifted by us dropping points and I fully expect them to go to Norwich and do them up the shitter.

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    Where is that South African cunt Justin. I’m in Capetown and wanted to meet up the fucker. Sitting here having a pint watching CR and Real batter Pathetico Madrid.

    Ronaldo’s second is nasty as fuck. Anyway, we all know this is the shit united side eclipsed only by a shit EPL standard.

    I also cannot see why all the venom against mancini is justified. It was an emphatic win against West Bumwich and were they to bitch slap us again, a two point gap is fuck all. He is still new to the game and dumb cunts comparing him to managerial dinosaurs such as SAF, Hiddink, Wenger – hell even Mourinho are way off the mark. He can win titles and cups – he is not as shit as you all think; he has unfort surrounded himself with a lots of poison.

    • DeadRevel

      Sorry but with the amount of money spent and number of players in their squad not winning anything this season is a pretty clear indicator of his quality. You can tell from his interviews he’s a hypocritical idiot.

      He’s not the same class as the managers you’ve mentioned.
      His recent attempts at mind games are testament to this.

      Still, he’s better than Dalglish. I’ll give you that.

  • han

    2 penalties not given – that was woeful refereeing – that fuck phil dowd acted like his usual cocksucking self being the player’s pal…knobfeatured cunt

  • http://twitter.com/dosdamt Ben Hulston

    ok, being slightly more rational

    Citeh beat a set of midtable terrible cunts who have nothing to play for. the goals Citeh scored were totally meh, and that bullshit performance from WBA is fuck all.

    Wigan have been playing well of late, and it is essential that lessons are learned from this game. The players absolutely have to look at themselves and get up for the next game. Citeh will be, those cunts will be well up for it now. United need to focus on what we’re good at, and how we can smack around cunts in the next few games, and hope that we can get a result at Wastelands.

  • sheesh

    I want to fast forward to the day after derby day. I’m nervous as hell now – all because we couldn’t hold the winning run together going into the City game.

    I fancy us to beat Villa but Everton will be a toughie.

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    Agree with that but taggart will just take them on another golf trip or spa to motivate them ffs

    What possesses the gobshite to talk to the media about a fucking round of golf and then get pimp slapped by wigan is beyond me. If that was a citeh mind trick it was a shit one. Fool. Just shut the fuck up and bag the cunt.

  • Herbie Simms

    Why did Fergie change a winning team? Playing against teams fighting relegation at this late in the season is not going to be easy. But we should be able to beat Wigan even if Fergie and Mike Phelan were in the team. The team played as if they were there to throw the game. I put it down to match fixing. Man City are back! Its not over yet.

  • brianofnazareth

    danniitronix said:
    Where is that South African cunt Justin. I’m in Capetown and wanted to meet up the fucker. Sitting here having a pint watching CR and Real batter Pathetico Madrid.

    Ronaldo’s second is nasty as fuck. Anyway, we all know this is the shit united side eclipsed only by a shit EPL standard.

    I also cannot see why all the venom against mancini is justified. It was an emphatic win against West Bumwich and were they to bitch slap us again, a two point gap is fuck all. He is still new to the game and dumb cunts comparing him to managerial dinosaurs such as SAF, Hiddink, Wenger – hell even Mourinho are way off the mark. He can win titles and cups – he is not as shit as you all think; he has unfort surrounded himself with a lots of poison.

    Why didn’t you contact him before you got there? Would have made more sense you thundercunt!!

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    They were only better, relative to how shit we were.

    They did nothing exceptional… we were just THAT bad.

    The pressing wasn’t the problem… we couldn’t string two fuckin passes together…

    That was the worst performance from a United team I’ve seen in a long time.

    We’d have lost to Canvey Island last night, never mind Wigan.

  • triggs

    One of Chico and Welbeck needs to find form before we go to the Etihad.

  • uncleknobheadforfucksake

    Commenter said:
    Lacking in quality tonight, not to mention some fight.

    Scholes and BERBATOV sorely missed.

    Surely the latter deserves to at least go on the bench considering Hernandez and Welbeck’s complete lack of form.

    Luckily we have Villa on Sunday and should be able to get a win on the board against the poorest Villa side for years.

    We have Villa (H), then Everton (H) prior to the big derby, City Norwich (A), Wolves (H).

    We should still be 5 points ahead prior to the derby.

    Our last two games: Swansea (H), Sunderland (A)
    City’s: Newcastle (A), QPR (H)

    if theres one thing you can rely on berbashite for its fight…

  • Just1n

    danniitronix said:
    Where is that South African cunt Justin. I’m in Capetown and wanted to meet up the fucker. Sitting here having a pint watching CR and Real batter Pathetico Madrid.

    Ronaldo’s second is nasty as fuck. Anyway, we all know this is the shit united side eclipsed only by a shit EPL standard.

    I also cannot see why all the venom against mancini is justified. It was an emphatic win against West Bumwich and were they to bitch slap us again, a two point gap is fuck all. He is still new to the game and dumb cunts comparing him to managerial dinosaurs such as SAF, Hiddink, Wenger – hell even Mourinho are way off the mark. He can win titles and cups – he is not as shit as you all think; he has unfort surrounded himself with a lots of poison.

    hey you cunt. Im around. PM me and i will give you my number. Oh and lube up the old chocolate starfish before you get here….

  • uncleknobheadforfucksake

    the only good thing id say about giggs is atleast he tries xfactory stuff albeit they come off once in every 20 times and he abandons all defensive responsibility to do it

    this teams looking fucking bland in terms of players capable of individual quality

    young hernandez cleverley aint really much cop and welbeck looks a spent force for the rest of the season

  • uncleknobheadforfucksake

    jones too

  • uncleknobheadforfucksake

    and tbf to hernandez and welbeck the way we use both is shite, we never knock it in behind for hernandez runs and weve completely stopped all the quick one touch stuff we did at the start of the season when welbeck and everyone were playing great

    all we do is get it wide and lump it in for no one in particular

  • uncleknobheadforfucksake

    why didnt scholes play the full 90 on sunday if he werent even gonna make the bench yesterday
    and why has rooney on the wing become an option again

  • http://www.sourceofgravity.com Bill

    Berba a better bet than hern and welb right now.

  • Just1n

    No one was complaining when we won 12 on the trot now after 1 game and its all doom and gloom. FFS!

  • uncleknobheadforfucksake

    well i was complaining about our one dimensional get it wide and plough it in the box valencia led uninteresting football

    and about our generally poor half arsed performances

  • Alfonso Bedoya

    Just1n said:
    No one was complaining when we won 12 on the trot now after 1 game and its all doom and gloom. FFS!

    We may have won 12 in a row, but progressively making it harder work… this result was always looking likely… but against Wigan?

    Come on… and Ferguson is being disingenuous saying, they’ve been playing some great football… they’re trying to dodge relegation ffs… that’s not bad luck… they’re shit!

    If we’d lost because we peppered their goal, but their keeper had a blinder, or we had a man sent off, but still managed a gritty performance, or some other situation where we could at least take something positive away, then I wouldn’t mind… but the ONLY thing I can see that’s positive from last night is… surely we couldn’t play that shit again!

  • Dinkinflicker

    Alfonso Bedoya said:
    We may have won 12 in a row, but progressively making it harder work… this result was always looking likely… but against Wigan?

    Come on… and Ferguson is being disingenuous saying, they’ve been playing some great football… they’re trying to dodge relegation ffs… that’s not bad luck… they’re shit!

    If we’d lost because we peppered their goal, but their keeper had a blinder, or we had a man sent off, but still managed a gritty performance, or some other situation where we could at least take something positive away, then I wouldn’t mind… but the ONLY thing I can see that’s positive from last night is… surely we couldn’t play that shit again!

    I think Fergie’s words of praise are aimed more at his own players in terms or trying to limit any damage to morale.

    To a man, they looked like they thought the title was done and dusted. They started the game in completely the wrong mindset and never recovered.

    Hopefully it’ll act as a kick up the arse, but a convincing performance and win is needed against Villa. an 8 point gap gave us a bit of contingency for a banana skin, but I never thought we’d need it against Wigan. Sunderland away or Everton at home maybe.

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    brianofnazareth said:
    Why didn’t you contact him before you got there? Would have made more sense you thundercunt!!

    Piss off you fucknugget. I just spoke to Justin courtesy of Dave and he does not sound like a badd ass south african rapist which is disappointing. He did however give me a hot tip for a strip club called Mavericks in Cape Town. Cheeky munkey!

  • Just1n

    danniitronix said:
    Piss off you fucknugget. I just spoke to Justin courtesy of Dave and he does not sound like a badd ass south african rapist which is disappointing. He did however give me a hot tip for a strip club called Mavericks in Cape Town. Cheeky munkey!

    yeah Bri, check it out.

    http://www.mavericks.co.za/

    no sheep though…

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    Awesome place but bloody expensive!

  • brianofnazareth

    Did you meet up?

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    We have a hot date this evening!

  • brianofnazareth

    R.I.P Justin’s arsehole….

  • Just1n

    brianofnazareth said:
    R.I.P Justin’s arsehole….

    will be a great help with my constipation problem…

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    Justin has invited me and a mate to a “deep-house” party in the suburbs … We’re gonna get bummed, chopped and dumped in marshes.

  • Just1n

    danniitronix said:
    Justin has invited me and a mate to a “deep-house” party in the suburbs … We’re gonna get bummed, chopped and dumped in marshes.

    You got the bummed part right.

  • brianofnazareth

    Just1n said:
    You got the bummed part right.

    Is he sore this morning?

  • http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/members/danniitronix/ danniitronix

    Shitting razor blades