Alfonso Bedoya wrote:
pint vulger wrote:Cheers mate ,a cracking summary may I suggest you missed out the bit that convicted murderers were freed early in order for the 'peace ' process to work ( apologies if thas not right)
A bridge to far for my liking .
What happens now ,has Mr McGuiness used the 'green' debacle as an excuse to force an election.
For me, this is stony ground as I openly admit to knowing fuck all about it, aside from a few horror stories told to me by a very good mate in Canada, and that the great Irish famine was a misnomer... but "convicted murderers" is really a matter of perspective, is it not?
Just saying like... I mean Tony Blair could easily be labelled a murder, depending in your perspective...
You're talking about the difference Alf between imperialism centuries ago and my dads mate being blown up by dissidents last year in sheer futility, condemned by men on both sides who have done time during the actual troubles, or the UVF blowing up the Miami show band for fuck all.
I married a Catholic girl from a Republican area and when we would go to funerals you'd see the graves of Catholics killed. Then when you've heard screams and night terrors of people who've mates have been killed by the IRA, it puts our class war, collenialism shit into perspective.
The only perspective is whether the combatants were soldiers or terrorists and I don't get into that because I can understand both sides. I've no bitterness, it's the tit for tat bull shit of point scoring and when you're fucked, when either side gets caught with the hand in the cookie jar? They blame "them uns" over there.
If you look at the major English parties, when they get caught in a scandal, they call their mates and throw fuck loads of lawyers at a problem and bury it.
When we have a problem, we blame whichever other religion is on the other side that's called us on it.
Then, unfortunately, there are enough knuckle draggers come July, to kick the shite out of each other and the police. They are only starting to understand corruption and that the politicians are self serving cunts here as much as anywhere else.
E.g. Martin McGuinness resigns. I'm not going to comment on that, I think it was a mixture of all three theories, the scandal, I'll Health and probably deep down, some politics.
Arlene Foster gave her reply which she is entitled to do and I have no issue with, if it's bull shit, people can make up their own minds.
But at the end, she chucks in, and we will always defend Unionism. Now most unionists will go, how dare you chuck that in because you were a fuckin tube. But there are enough, sadly, people, including young people who have been raised that way, that think wood pellets are what you put in the cats litter tray, so they'll hear that last part and go it's them uns again! Fuckin cunts, that's when the murdering scum slandering starts up again.
Like on a Facebook page I was reading, just hatred back and forth, pure bile.
E.g. Say a pretty safe Tory seat is next to a pretty safe labour seat. At the next fuck up of either party, the two towns or villages aren't going to kick the living shite out of each other.
There's too many factors but fuck me lol, don't drag up the plantations or the famine, we are still trying to move on from the fuckin 1990s ffs!
Well I suppose that's the knighthood fucked.