http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 86455.html
swampash wrote:...need to be very wary of those preaching socialism with nationalism Sid. Remember Germany...
A good read,if you have time. Bear in mind it only discusses one chapter of the book. A counter balance to this view is probably 'Liberalism:A Counter-History' by Domenico Losurdo.
I'm not having that book tbf
The socialism of the future would lie in "the community of the volk", not in internationalism, he claimed, and his task was to "convert the German volk to socialism without simply killing off the old individualists", meaning the entrepreneurial and managerial classes left from the age of liberalism. They should be used, not destroyed. The state could control, after all, without owning, guided by a single party, the economy could be planned and directed without dispossessing the propertied classes.
He wanted to preserve property, so that's not socialism/communism for me. He wanted the old bourgeoise to maintain its power because it was compatible with fascism. He was maintaining the class structure. Actual marxists would strip them of their property for the good of all. This would probably end in civil war as the rich and powerful want to maintain their power, but that's what's necessary.
And I would imagine Hitler read Marx because it is/was required reading for its analysis of capitalism - a system he supported. Cock this:
"In a meeting with German business leaders in 1933, Hitler declared that “democracy” (i.e., actual parliamentary control) was fundamentally incompatible with a free-market capitalist economy, a truth far more widely acknowledged in that era. Following Hitler’s speech, Göring presented the Nazi case in blunt terms: support the Nazi party and parliamentary democracy would end. The threat to free enterprise from communism, socialism, organized labor, and even basic formal democracy would be over. Göring concluded: “the sacrifices asked for […] would be so much easier for industry to bear if it realized that the election of March 5th will surely be the last one for the next 10 years, probably even for the next 100 years.” These “sacrifices” were the millions of Deutsche marks that Schacht proceeded to collect from the room. — Ajay Singh Chaudhary, Raphaële Chappe - The Supermanagerial Reich
And right marxism preaches internationalism. How can a german worker be free if a bangladeshi worker isn't. It's one global class under the global system of captialism. And that's incompatible with Hitler's eugenics shite which preaches that one race is superior to another. He didn't see a working class and bourgeoise like a marxian scholar would, he saw slavs, blacks, jews, and he wanted to kill them all even though they were german, even though they were of the working class. He also persecuted trans people n all because they saw it as a threat to patriarchy - even though they were german and working class.
He might have called himself a socialist but he wasn't. Political terms are just dodgy as fuck. It's like how the right have adopted the term libertarian. It used to be associated with left wing anti state stuff, but now the right have got hold of it it means less rules an regulations, so better for business, the employers, not the employee.