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Re: Re: Manchester, and now London

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:27 am
by redzebs
Snoopcousins wrote:
Sid wrote:I'm not sure tbh, not seen any details yet. All I know is the government have written down 10m to get them in there, and the homes are permanent.

It might be that there is social housing in the building and that they will occupy those. A lot of modern luxury high rises have to include so much social housing because the housing crisis in britain and especially london sees entire families sleeping in cars and that. So they have really basic facilities in comparison to their rich neighbours, they have a seperate 'poor door' to go through and they never meet inside the building, it's segregated living hence the phrase social apartheid aka seperated on class grounds.

But either way this is the result of the left/a left wing Labour government pushing for the homes of the rich to be opened up. If they hadn't have pushed that idea relentlessly and made it an issue the tories would have rehoused the survivors outside of london and washed their hands of them.
There were luxury apartments built in Gt Victoria Street in Belfast not too long ago- penthouses, concierge, private underground car park etc etc, all around £300K min when opened - then Housing Executive bought about 60% of them for Sicial Housing ,they are now one of the worst flats in Belfast....massive drug problem- users lying around the foyer, needles etc, sudden deaths, domestics , police are never out of it.... tbh I feel sorry for the ones who have mortgages and living there prob with Negative equity unable to move away now the apartments are worth a lot less and no one would buy one privately.
IMO Social housing Belfast is better off in designated own flats /apartments

But...fair play they are getting re-homed quickly
Aye I got a couple out of the Obel building but they lost £30 k deposit, a load of it now is social housing

Re: Re: Manchester, and now London

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:27 am
by FuB
Grenfell fire caused by fridge-freezer and the cladding failed safety tests... police will consider manslaughter charges now.


Re: Re: Manchester, and now London

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:48 am
by Sid
Should be murder but I'll take it

Re: Re: Manchester, and now London

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:51 am
by Edfuckingwoodward
FuB wrote:Grenfell fire caused by fridge-freezer and the cladding failed safety tests... police will consider manslaughter charges now.

I heard on the news this morning that the insulation material used was even more flammable than the cladding.

Re: Re: Manchester, and now London

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:04 pm
by Sid
I've heard that as well

They're tearing the cladding off a towerblock in Islington because it's similar

What kind of cunt covers a building in a banned material that's flammable... Fucking arrest the cunt now, the ceo cunt and the manager cunts who made the decision

They're mass murderers. It's banned for a reason. If you still choose to use that material you're taking a risk that if there's a fire you're going to kill lots of people. And that's what happened. So arrest the cunt.

Re: Re: Manchester, and now London

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:15 pm
by FuB
i'm by no means an expert but it may be that insulation is less of an issue in so much as it's normally installed between layers that should be fireproof... so, in theory, fire shouldn't be able to get there unless there's already a catastrophic failure elsewhere.

In any case the fire clearly spread round the outside of the building and the cladding is implicated.

Re: Re: Manchester, and now London

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:52 pm
by redzebs
The excuse/reasoning is that it was eco friendly, kept in heat but also let a breeze in.

For me that's the design not the material but there you go.

Re: Re: Manchester, and now London

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:46 pm
by Lazarus
Camden council have started the ball rolling. They're evacuating 800 households tonight because their buildings are not safe. How many more to follow all over the country?

Re: Re: Manchester, and now London

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:29 pm
by Alfonso Bedoya

Re: Re: Manchester, and now London

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:40 pm
by fat maradona
The death toll is in the hundreds, no fucking doubt about it. People don't need the media to tell them otherwise, they already know or should know.