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The government's press conference... Pathetic. They're basically doing nothing - still - apart from stopping old people going on cruises.

Meanwhile the Chief medical officer said that 80% of nation could contract it, with half a million of us dying https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... it-says-pm "Johnson himself said many people will lose loved ones"

The Tories have long believed in eugenics. It's been exposed in recent months (posts made by Dominic Cummings' & others). But this really feels like it in action, as in it's just you and your immune system, and only the strongest will survive. Madness, from a hugely rich powerful nation with vast resources and organising abilities. You can't stop the virus but you can slow it down and create the best circumstances to keep the most people alive.
80% with half a million dying is just based on the known mortality rate mixed in with a total infection rate similar to what bman quoted previously (50-70%). It's not a nice bunch of numbers to see but you'd hope it's very much on the worst case scenario side of things. I don't really have too much of an issue with stating numbers like that if it actually spurs people on to starting to give a shit and acting appropriately.

However, when this is combined with Johnson's mind of a bellend, waffle your way through everything nonsense, it really does leave me speechless. You still have such an opportunity to learn from how things went off here in Italy so doing absolutely fuck all and paying lip service to it is almost unbelievable, except that shooting the country in the foot is his favourite pastime.
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Still seems like a lot of hysterical nonsense to me.
It's not to the 4000 dead or those most at risk

Thing is because the media is loving it and sensationaling it, as they do, your instinctive reaction is to be sceptical. But that isn't a good response.
I think scepticism is much underrated.
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Arteta tests positive. Clubs are preparing for the Prem to be suspended.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ier-league

The guardian have a quote from one club saying they wouldn't be surprised if the league was voided. Makes sense tbf cos the isolation period is weeks / months, and that's assuming the players / staff get it at once, which they won't, it will be over the coming months / poss a year. So you're looking at a huge lay off period.
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Still seems like a lot of hysterical nonsense to me.
It's not to the 4000 dead or those most at risk

Thing is because the media is loving it and sensationaling it, as they do, your instinctive reaction is to be sceptical. But that isn't a good response.
I think scepticism is much underrated.
There isn't a cunt out there that's more sceptical and cynical than me. But to base ones opinion on an event like this purely in opposition to the sensationalist capitalist media - ignoring the health experts, stats, facts from other countries - is dumb, Swamps.

Follow the advice. If you're feeling ill, isolate, or else you're putting other people at risk and that's poor form.
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My work is implementing a split work rota starting on monday, blue team and red team, 1 week in office, deep clean, and the other team comes in week after.
Not allowed to socialise outside of work with anyone on the opposite team.
Pretty mad, but at least they are trying to be proactive, albeit the company are trying to protect their own interests!
Would you be able to explain what industry you work in without giving anything you don't want to away?

I'm also interested in what "deep clean" means in that context. Sounds appropriately serious but is it actually being done in a serious way?

Obviously business is going to protect their own interest but it's quite disheartening that businesses figure out how to plan these things seriously much better than governments have been. Even here, i learnt from friends at the very outset of the first reported cases that the company they work for (a very large multinational) had been restricting travel around the world for several weeks beforehand. For my part, i've also been busy... I work most closely for a company in the UK and it's been an entire week of crisis planning and getting anyone who can work from home set up to do so.

Despite the worldwide stock market shitstorm, i can guarantee companies who deal with products for remote working and remote telephony are doing great guns.
I work in IT, as a backend dev. The office workspace is all hotdesking on a vdi anyways, so there is no issue with people being able to remotely log in, and continue to work from home. The functionality is there, which does make it easier for the company to continue as normal.

So yeah, going forward we are split in who is in office, and who is out and no socialising out side of that.

They had already implemented travel restrictions(no international flights) for about the past 3 weeks as well, and no travel internally for the past week, so yeah, they put the govt to shame!

For the deep clean I'm not fully sure what they do, but it's an outside vendor coming in to do it, so guessing it's a good enough job!
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jason_uk wrote:
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My work is implementing a split work rota starting on monday, blue team and red team, 1 week in office, deep clean, and the other team comes in week after.
Not allowed to socialise outside of work with anyone on the opposite team.
Pretty mad, but at least they are trying to be proactive, albeit the company are trying to protect their own interests!
Would you be able to explain what industry you work in without giving anything you don't want to away?

I'm also interested in what "deep clean" means in that context. Sounds appropriately serious but is it actually being done in a serious way?

Obviously business is going to protect their own interest but it's quite disheartening that businesses figure out how to plan these things seriously much better than governments have been. Even here, i learnt from friends at the very outset of the first reported cases that the company they work for (a very large multinational) had been restricting travel around the world for several weeks beforehand. For my part, i've also been busy... I work most closely for a company in the UK and it's been an entire week of crisis planning and getting anyone who can work from home set up to do so.

Despite the worldwide stock market shitstorm, i can guarantee companies who deal with products for remote working and remote telephony are doing great guns.
I work in IT, as a backend dev. The office workspace is all hotdesking on a vdi anyways, so there is no issue with people being able to remotely log in, and continue to work from home. The functionality is there, which does make it easier for the company to continue as normal.

So yeah, going forward we are split in who is in office, and who is out and no socialising out side of that.

They had already implemented travel restrictions(no international flights) for about the past 3 weeks as well, and no travel internally for the past week, so yeah, they put the govt to shame!

For the deep clean I'm not fully sure what they do, but it's an outside vendor coming in to do it, so guessing it's a good enough job!
i hear you... i bet you won't get to avoid stand ups though. not even a silver lining there.
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bang on as usual
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bang on as usual
Yeah that was good. Trump’s address was fucking scary, and his description of it was perfect. I was up awake and watched it live, couldn’t believe how bad it was.

Has the UK government said anything about trying to offer economic protections for people? At least some other European countries are trying. I get the sense Johnson’s government is all about protecting “the economy” first. They seem ready to throw overboard the old people that voted for them.
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Government policy U turn, they've banned all mass gatherings after yesterday's out cry and panic to their 'it's just you and yours immune system, jack' policy

At last some action. But they're only doing it cos of the flak they got, and cos bodies like the Prem just acted anyway against government advice. So now we have a reactionary gov that's making it up as they go along.
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I saw an interview earlier with an American viralogist who's actively working in analysing covid-19. He suggested that the latest data indicates that its 10-15 times more serious than the nastiest strands of seasonal flu and that the mortality rate is drive by a number of factors - age being one, but others being the level of cardio vascular health you have to begin with, whether you smoke and of particular concern in America, your levels of body fat. Diabetes is apparently is huge risk factor.

He also indicated that the transmission data they have shows that this thing is massively more contagious than first thought - with case studies on people who have little to no symptoms showing 10,000 times the viral load than SARS!! He also said that the most common method of transmission is literally through breathing in expelled air by someone infectious rather than simply by touch. If that's true then our whole 'just wash your hands' strategy is even more bollocksed than we think.
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