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Re: matic is shite tbf

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:27 pm
by marlon
Herrera's become a weird player. He has a few too many lapses in concentration to be a lone holding player but he doesn't offer enough on the ball to be an 8 in a three either. He's probably be better off in a 2 with Fred and 4 attackers in front of them. I agree he's a better option than Matic for now though.

Although I can't see how you'd put our best midfield together without Pogba.

Re: matic is shite tbf

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:39 pm
by Edfuckingwoodward
marlon wrote:
1 year ago
Herrera's become a weird player. He has a few too many lapses in concentration to be a lone holding player but he doesn't offer enough on the ball to be an 8 in a three either. He's probably be better off in a 2 with Fred and 4 attackers in front of them. I agree he's a better option than Matic for now though.

Although I can't see how you'd put our best midfield together without Pogba.
For me its about balance and team ethic. He's got brilliance in him that none of the other have, but it comes at a price. I don't think we can carry a player like that at the minute.

Re: matic is shite tbf

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:58 pm
by dozer
Herrera isnt good at anything or bad at anything. Fletcher.

Re: matic is shite tbf

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:52 pm
by marlon
ashleyfuckingyoung wrote:
1 year ago
marlon wrote:
1 year ago
Herrera's become a weird player. He has a few too many lapses in concentration to be a lone holding player but he doesn't offer enough on the ball to be an 8 in a three either. He's probably be better off in a 2 with Fred and 4 attackers in front of them. I agree he's a better option than Matic for now though.

Although I can't see how you'd put our best midfield together without Pogba.
For me its about balance and team ethic. He's got brilliance in him that none of the other have, but it comes at a price. I don't think we can carry a player like that at the minute.
I don't think we have a choice - in terms of passing ability in the team it goes: Pogba, Mata, then a huge gap to the rest. (Hopefully Fred can add to that). Liverpool get away with it because it's all about pressing and they have Salah. Spurs are starting to struggle (which is presumably why Eriksen played in a two last night) but their front 4 and full backs are a good attacking unit. Our attack can't carry a purely functional midfield - we need Pogba for balance. A 352 would made so much sense for our midfield and attacking options if we could put a decent back three together.

Re: matic is shite tbf

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:59 pm
by marlon
dozer wrote:
1 year ago
Herrera isnt good at anything or bad at anything. Fletcher.
He's good at pressing. With Fred, Lingard, Rashford and Sanchez we could field a pretty effective pressing team.

Re: matic is shite tbf

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:49 pm
by FuB
marlon wrote:
1 year ago
ashleyfuckingyoung wrote:
1 year ago
marlon wrote:
1 year ago
Herrera's become a weird player. He has a few too many lapses in concentration to be a lone holding player but he doesn't offer enough on the ball to be an 8 in a three either. He's probably be better off in a 2 with Fred and 4 attackers in front of them. I agree he's a better option than Matic for now though.

Although I can't see how you'd put our best midfield together without Pogba.
For me its about balance and team ethic. He's got brilliance in him that none of the other have, but it comes at a price. I don't think we can carry a player like that at the minute.
I don't think we have a choice - in terms of passing ability in the team it goes: Pogba, Mata, then a huge gap to the rest. (Hopefully Fred can add to that). Liverpool get away with it because it's all about pressing and they have Salah. Spurs are starting to struggle (which is presumably why Eriksen played in a two last night) but their front 4 and full backs are a good attacking unit. Our attack can't carry a purely functional midfield - we need Pogba for balance. A 352 would made so much sense for our midfield and attacking options if we could put a decent back three together.
The problem with insisting on picking Pogba because of his passing ability is that, all to often, that passing ability is regularly overshadowed by his much more prolific ability of shielding a ball and waiting for the other team to give him a reason to actually shield it, then falling over under pressure and being dispossessed so he can look imploringly at the referee for what was never a foul.

but, back on topic... Matic was, and is, an old cunt stopgap typical of Mourinho's mentality that was trying to buy any old aged centre half in the summer. this sort of short-termism is yet another reason why Mourinho needs to fuck off.

Re: matic is shite tbf

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:45 pm
by marlon
Why would you pick any of our other mids over Pogba though?

Re: matic is shite tbf

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:18 pm
by Davey-boy
Pogba may be a bit of a showboaty cock prone to brain farts but he's also one of the very few players who can do brilliant things. Some of his passing is unbelievable at times

Re: matic is shite tbf

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:00 pm
by FuB
Yeah... but we often have to wait two or three games to see one of these passes come off.

Let's see how much real difference the bellend makes in his other home as he put it... I hope a lot but I ain't going to hold my breath

Re: matic is shite tbf

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:50 pm
by Lazarus
Davey-boy wrote:
1 year ago
Pogba may be a bit of a showboaty cock prone to brain farts but he's also one of the very few players who can do brilliant things. Some of his passing is unbelievable at times
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