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Sid wrote:So why's not do that then, why's he wait til the 10th? Wanted the overtime?

Truth is his game is to be cautious as fuck, to not take risks in case he's gets caught and goes down thus ruining his unbeaten run that only he rates. And he lacks power, especally now he's 40.
^^This^^

Mayweather is an outstanding boxer... but he's not a fighter... he's a master of the science of boxing, and ring craft, and playing the rules... but as good as his record is, it's padded out with more than a few contentious victories... he might have got the win, but both opponents and boxing fans were left feeling cheated...

His record will stand, but he'll never be remembered in the same way the great warriors of the sport, Ali, Holyfield, Hagler, Hearns, Leonard, Duran, or even Marciano, who's unbeaten record, this ridiculous fight just beat...
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Innit

Mayweather's managed his career really well, he fought people at the right time. He says he beat the best, but he waited til they were old before he got in the ring with them, like the Pacquiao fight came 5/10 years too late. Manny had already retired once. That stuff will be remembered as part of his legacy.

Whereas Ali is 10 times the fighter Mayweather is and he didn't go unbeaten.
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I'll give it up to McGregor though, it shows how fuckin brutal MMA is, I'm telling you, watch for the brain trauma starting in 10/20 years, only thing is is the question is five elbows to the head before the ref stops it worse than 30 punches, some of them routine but the add up and they hurt,

Anyway, McGrefor was genuine imho opinion when he was like, why'd he stop it like, why didn't he let it go the distance, even if he was beat he wanted to give the fans the full fight and/or himself one last lucky chance but

Yeah, it's a bit weird reading all the comments that then go from what I read but McGregor took it to him then Mayweather just waited but I think he was surprised for an amateur boxer that McGregor was as half decent as he was but just shows how brave/stupid/smart, I don't know, but whatever, McGregors already talking about fighting full MMA like soon soon against a top of the line opponent.

And AJ says he'll fight in the UFC on a anything but submit grounds which I'm assuming means if a fighter is down, no grappling and has to be allowed to get up, he says he thinks he's just naturally suited to combat sports regardless so I'd imagine the best part of a year focusing on kicking and holds then I could easily see UFC getting a 40 odd Brock Leonard back if WWE (he got special permission and fought and won in UFC last year), cue Dana White and Paul Heyman and AJs promoter at the time building it up.

That being said, I'd loved to have seen Mayweather actually be serious and fight in the Octagon under boxing rules, less rounds no ropes so he has to go for it, that would have been the rematch if McGregor had sparked him.

But anyway cudos to MMA fighters or else just McGregor, straight away he was just like, yip I'm not hurt, bit disappointed the ref didn't give him the chance to actually put me down properly or at least let him win on points but by next year I'll be richer than Ronaldo and I'm ready to go for a fight that will actually/could actually do some damage to me and I've probably gained a bit of extra experience here tbf.
Well I suppose that's the knighthood fucked.
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Forget the Mayweather and Joshua v a borderlined retired Klitchsko... Golovkin v Canelo is a proper special fight

It'll be another 3/4/5am start but it's worth staying up for
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Sid wrote:Forget the Mayweather and Joshua v a borderlined retired Klitchsko... Golovkin v Canelo is a proper special fight

It'll be another 3/4/5am start but it's worth staying up for
Remember Mayweather made that young buck Canelo look like a fool. Inflicted his only defeat.

Fair johns that Mayweather fought a few people late in their career but the cunt was himself over 30 when he fought De La Hoya, Canelo, Pac Man, Cotto - he absolutely cunted Hatton.

Looking at it from another angle, whats he supposed to do if twats can't even hit him. The fact that he has no power is even more remarkable that no cunt can knock him out. You make it sound as if he runs around the ring hiding behind the ref!

Everyone sees Ali and spunks on their you tube. But see Ali v Holmes, see how shit he is, utterly crap and that is what being beat up in the process of handing out beats does to you. Holmes was apparently crying when he was kicking the shit out of him because he was his hero.
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That was a hell of a scrap.

For all the talk of Golovkin's power, his chin is the best in the business. Canelo caught him with all of his biggest shots, multiple times, and he didn't even blink. It's as if there was no power there, except we know there is.

A draw is probably the right result. Canelo landed in bursts but Golovkin was the aggressor, and his punches actually hurt. They wore him down. He had Canelo wobbling a bit in the final round n all. It's that relentless attacking gameplan of massive blows that fuck you up. Canelo's counterattacks didn't even make the cunt blink. He's made of granite.
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danniitronix wrote:
Sid wrote:Forget the Mayweather and Joshua v a borderlined retired Klitchsko... Golovkin v Canelo is a proper special fight

It'll be another 3/4/5am start but it's worth staying up for
Remember Mayweather made that young buck Canelo look like a fool. Inflicted his only defeat.

Fair johns that Mayweather fought a few people late in their career but the cunt was himself over 30 when he fought De La Hoya, Canelo, Pac Man, Cotto - he absolutely cunted Hatton.

Looking at it from another angle, whats he supposed to do if twats can't even hit him. The fact that he has no power is even more remarkable that no cunt can knock him out. You make it sound as if he runs around the ring hiding behind the ref!

Everyone sees Ali and spunks on their you tube. But see Ali v Holmes, see how shit he is, utterly crap and that is what being beat up in the process of handing out beats does to you. Holmes was apparently crying when he was kicking the shit out of him because he was his hero.
Yeah Canelo was just that, a young buck - 23. He fought people at the right time. He dodged Pacquiao for 10 years. Manny had retired from boxing and got elected as a socialist MP before Mayweather agreed to fight him. It's farcical.

Don't get me wrong, Mayweather is a true great. One of the greatest without a doubt. But it comes with a disclaimer. Whereas with Ali it doesn't. Ali didn't dodge. He didn't wait til Joe Frazer had retired, he fought him.

Mayweather is the richest boxer bar none, and the highest earning sportsman in the years of his fights. And that's often used as a measure of his greatness. But one of the main reasons people tune in is because he's a fucking serial wifebeater... people want to see him get battered. That's key to his success, his PPV figures, his wealth.
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danniitronix wrote:
Sid wrote:Forget the Mayweather and Joshua v a borderlined retired Klitchsko... Golovkin v Canelo is a proper special fight

It'll be another 3/4/5am start but it's worth staying up for
Remember Mayweather made that young buck Canelo look like a fool. Inflicted his only defeat.

Fair johns that Mayweather fought a few people late in their career but the cunt was himself over 30 when he fought De La Hoya, Canelo, Pac Man, Cotto - he absolutely cunted Hatton.

Looking at it from another angle, whats he supposed to do if twats can't even hit him. The fact that he has no power is even more remarkable that no cunt can knock him out. You make it sound as if he runs around the ring hiding behind the ref!

Everyone sees Ali and spunks on their you tube. But see Ali v Holmes, see how shit he is, utterly crap and that is what being beat up in the process of handing out beats does to you. Holmes was apparently crying when he was kicking the shit out of him because he was his hero.
That's right... he took Hatton apart... it was ruthless and humiliating, in the end... and he may not have hid behind the ref... but what he did do, was some of the cheesiest, chicken shit, ducking, and diving under the ropes, you'll ever see... fair enough, the rules allow that, and he played those rules to the limit, frustrating Hatton, who came to fight... the record will say, Mayweather took Hatton out in 9, and it was decisive... but anyone who watched that fight, saw a very competitive, even fight, in the first few rounds, when it was a fight... until Mayweather decided he didn't like fighting... then he started the shitty, spoiling tactics, dodging low, and diving for the ropes... and it worked... Hatton was too thick, and didn't have the discipline to stick to his game... he started chasing Mayeather, who set off running about the ring, frustrating Hatton, who lost all focus trying to catch him... 3 rounds later it was all over!

That's all that matters, as far as titles and prize money goes... and that's all Mayweather cares about... which is fair enough... it's his chin, his career, and he's made a few bob from it... but not many fight fans are going to talk about Mayweathers fights... they'll talk about his record, which you can't deny... but he's not going to be remembered, or talked about like, "fuckin hell, do you remember that one?", the way they will about Gatti/Ward, Eubank/Benn, Hagler/Hearns, Ali/Foreman, or countless other fights, some between boxers with half as much talent as Mayweather... but people will remember those fights with a fuck of a lot more pride for the boxers involved... proper fights, between proper fighters...

"Mayweather??? meh... great boxer, but do you remember that scrap between Holmes and Norton??? fuckin hell... now that was a fight"...
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Yeah gotta agree they're, he took Hstton lightly at the start and was at best even early on then Mayweather went fuck this, fucked about, got Hatton just punch drunk enough then stopped fucking about and ended it, looking back Hatton will regret not taking chances he didn't think he would get and/or then stick to tactics
Well I suppose that's the knighthood fucked.
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GGG beat Canelo though tbf, glad ref let it go the distance but that place was home town Mexican invasion sin city and they were going mental but they are a proud and respectful crowd who know their boxing and to see them boo their own and not let him speak on the mic and cheer GGG,

Where the fuck did that stupid bitch get 118-110 from!!!!!

Fair play to the Mexicans, there's no way Id heckle Frampton, no fuckin way, no matter if he won after getting battered.
Well I suppose that's the knighthood fucked.
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