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6 months ago

Because those pushing for Brexit were telling the voters of course nothing will change, there will be more money and of course immigration without thinking that the rest of Europe would give a big up yours to keeping the same Benefits.

What people also didn’t think about was that if in a few years the UK runs back to the EU then they will have to accept the Euro and have no special privilege’s as they have to day.

Maybe a Hard Brexit with no Trade Deal, with no deal on expatriates from the EU and UK and the possibility of the likes of Johnson, Gove and Mogg Rees gaining more power will show people how royally they have buggered up, add to that wee Jimmy Krankie (Sturgeon) and others who voted to stay but will have to leave should press for Independence which in principle I am against but surely its time that these politicians were shown it’s not about them it’s about the people.
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1 month ago



Pretty bang on as usual.
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1 month ago

Sounds like he loves brexit tbh
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'I'm a remainer', 'leave voters are principled', 'it wasn't racism', 'you're too smart to be fooled by propaganda'....fuck the establishment though.

Nah.

He wants to be mates with everyone except the politcians.
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Racism and xenophobia were undoubtedly motivations for some voting brexit. But so were neoliberal economics. People like where I live, in a city devastated by neoliberal economics, have seen shitloads of industry move abroad. So people think tearing up EU trade deals will give us more power to bring industry back and start producing stuff again. And the rich capitalists like Farage that led the brexit campaign told them this would happen. It's obviously total bullshit, they'll always use the cheapest labour so the can get the maximum returns.They're under no patriotic obligation to keep industry here. But you can't knock people for thinking this when virtually no other argument was put forward, other than the fucking depressing 'lets stay in the EU and maintain the status quo and poverty conditions' argument that was put forward by liberals like Miliband that everybody hates.

It's a lack of discourse on the economy that's responsible for this misleading argument. But you won't get it from the capitalist press because they're owned by the million/billionaires that invest in these global industries, so it's down to the left on the ground to put forward the argument grassroots style, and they didn't. The left in britain is characterised by an intensely ignorant middle class who're full of class sneering and ignorance. For them brexit was great because it reconfirmed the myth that the working class are all racist and fascist and need to be led by the enlightened folk. The shit they were saynig in the wake of the vote wasn't 'lets put forward a better left wing argument that preaches solidarity amongst all races & nationalities of the wc in britain', but 'take the vote off anybody that hasn't got a university education.'
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marlon wrote:
1 month ago
Sounds like he loves brexit tbh
Really??? I'll have to listen to it again..... I broadly agree with him most of the time. The caveat being he's some one with a 'show' so loves the attention and they're generally twats no matter what their politics.
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Sid wrote:
1 month ago
Racism and xenophobia were undoubtedly motivations for some voting brexit. But so were neoliberal economics. People like where I live, in a city devastated by neoliberal economics, have seen shitloads of industry move abroad. So people think tearing up EU trade deals will give us more power to bring industry back and start producing stuff again. And the rich capitalists like Farage that led the brexit campaign told them this would happen. It's obviously total bullshit, they'll always use the cheapest labour so the can get the maximum returns.They're under no patriotic obligation to keep industry here. But you can't knock people for thinking this when virtually no other argument was put forward, other than the fucking depressing 'lets stay in the EU and maintain the status quo and poverty conditions' argument that was put forward by liberals like Miliband that everybody hates.

It's a lack of discourse on the economy that's responsible for this misleading argument. But you won't get it from the capitalist press because they're owned by the million/billionaires that invest in these global industries, so it's down to the left on the ground to put forward the argument grassroots style, and they didn't. The left in britain is characterised by an intensely ignorant middle class who're full of class sneering and ignorance. For them brexit was great because it reconfirmed the myth that the working class are all racist and fascist and need to be led by the enlightened folk. The shit they were saynig in the wake of the vote wasn't 'lets put forward a better left wing argument that preaches solidarity amongst all races & nationalities of the wc in britain', but 'take the vote off anybody that hasn't got a university education.'
Yup....

we need some new wankers on here, hopefully ones that have some balls at least.
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Anyone got a steer on the Labour Party's position? I'm struggling to see what they want or what their strategy is. By now they should have a cogent position in response to the mess the government is in, but I'm struggling to discern it.
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1 month ago

If you voted for Brexit, you've been well and truly had. Only rich people like Jacob Rees Mogg will benefit.

This country is fucked.

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The rich win either way, Sheesh
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