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Re: Vs Everton

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:32 pm
by Sid
And if that involves keeping the ball on the deck and passing and moving, then fair enough right? Because it works more often than parking the bus and knocking it long on the counter does

Those Spanish teams who come up against Barca don't suddenly become Stoke, 451, defend, kick their best player and the puff with the fancy haircut - they stick to what they know which is passing the football and keeping possession

"And you can have all the passing drills you want in training... but in a match, when the pressing game is intense, if your players simply aren't good enough, then you're not going to hang onto the football for very long, and what's worse is you'll probably lose it in dangerous areas... even top clubs struggle with possession against hard pressing... "

No Alf, no... come on now. Our players only start smashing it when they're nervous (which is all the fucking time) because it's what they've been taught since childhood. That's not true everywhere else. In other, better countries, their default is to keep the ball, to pass it, because you're safer in possession and can build attacks. So when they're nervous and playing in a big intense game, they keep the ball more than usual because they're more comfortable with it then without it. For some the idea of knocking it long doesn't even register at all, no matter the situation.

"If your players aren't good enough..." do you think some of that shite in the Southampton team were as good as the players in City or United when they drew with em, or better than those in the Liverpool team when they beat em at Anfield. Course not.

I'm not saying Stoke can't exist, I'm saying they can and they're shit, but this shite we hear from British managers justifying their shite expensive shit football is depressing and proven to be bullshit now - that's why Pulis lost his job and why the Everton fans wanted rid of Moyes and Southampton ditched Adkins.

Re: Vs Everton

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:59 pm
by marlon
Jones and Carrick have been training away from the first team, so they probably won't be available. Fellaini might be. It's a shame Fellaini, Anderson and Fletcher are still here or we might've seen Pearson make his debut. Fletcher as vice captain with Rooney out probably has a very good chance of starting.


I think Martinez got lucky for a year - he brought his possession based attacking football while Everton's back 4 remembered how they defended under Moyes. They're looking much more like a Martinez defence now, and Distin and Jagielka are getting a bit old. They'll probably remain a decent mid table club who occasionally challenges for a Europa spot but with their financial problems they'll never challenge the top 4.

Re: Vs Everton

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:01 pm
by sheesh
Against all logic, I have a feeling we'll nick a result.

3-2.

Re: Vs Everton

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:45 am
by senna
If we have any luck we will win by a small margin, otherwise i could see a draw. Not much faith in a midfield without Herrera/Rooney atm.

Re: Vs Everton

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:04 am
by swampash
Time for Falcao to prove his worth this week.

Re: Vs Everton

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:29 pm
by Spudiator
I reckon we will win, but it won't be pretty. Probably scrape it 1-0, given how fragile the confidence seems to be within the players right now, but under the circumstances, 1-0 will do.

Re: Vs Everton

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:58 am
by Anantax
My prediction has been shit but wont stop me anyways: 4-2 United!

Re: Vs Everton

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:43 am
by lars072
Maybe Everton will be shattered from their Europa adventure. But I still think they're be goals ~ I'll say 3-2 us but could easily be the reverse.

Re: Vs Everton

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:50 am
by swampash
we win. 3-1.

Re: Vs Everton

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:24 am
by marlon
de Gea
Rafael McNair Rojo Shaw
Valencia Blind di Maria
van Persie Mata Falcao

Lindegaard, Thorpe, Blackett, Fletcher, Fellaini, Januzaj, Wilson

Interesting with Valencia. He can't pass for shit, but he's fast and he'll get stuck in. Not like the alternatives are better. Lukaku's been playing on the right so he'll be up against Shaw/Rojo rather than McNair