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I know it's Trump and everything, but selling out the Kurds like this is absolutely brutal
Yeah, fucking brutal, and an unsurprising stab in the back from the yank state. They used em to defeat ISIS, now they leave em to die.

It's because northern syria is revolutionary. I'm no expert on em but I know the dominant ideology is socialist / libertarian, with feminism at its heart. I've seen the female fighting units who're out there killing fascists. I know women have more rights there than anywhere else in the middle east. And that is in conflict with western capitalist interests. So they'll let Erdogan kill this democratic experiment like europe including britain did in revolutionary spain in 1936.

They did the same when the financed and armed conservative islam (Bin Laden) to fight the soviets, because while brutal the soviets believed in nationalisation and educated women in schools. So they'd rather have fascistic interpretations of islam because they're open to western capitalist interests than these radical left wing areas that spring up. It's a crock of shit.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/10/roja ... s-military
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US overthrowing another democracy
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US overthrowing another democracy
No doubt when the US government's files are released in 50 years time we'll realise the democratically regime was "unfriendly to US business interests" and thus needed disposing of
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The Sunday military coup in Bolivia has put in place a government which appears likely to reverse a decision by just-resigned President Evo Morales to cancel an agreement with a German company for developing lithium deposits in the Latin American country for batteries like those in electric cars.

"Bolivia's lithium belongs to the Bolivian people. Not to multinational corporate cabals." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/ ... thium-deal

The Morales move on Nov. 4 to cancel the December 2018 agreement with Germany's ACI Systems Alemania (ACISA) came after weeks of protests from residents of the Potosí area. The region has 50% to 70% of the world's lithium reserves in the Salar de Uyuni salt flats.

So that's why there was a coup. Morales wanted to nationalise their lithium reserves (second biggest in the world, making them hugely profitable and powerful) and reinvest profits back into the country as protesters demanded. But multinationals had other ideas. Bloomberg reported demand for lithium is expected to double in the next 5 years as electric cars replace fossil fuel cars. So states are moving to secure lithium sites like they did oil fields. No surprise this trade deal involved germany as a good half of the cars you see on the road are german (audi, bmw, mercedes, volskwagen etc).
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The Sunday military coup in Bolivia has put in place a government which appears likely to reverse a decision by just-resigned President Evo Morales to cancel an agreement with a German company for developing lithium deposits in the Latin American country for batteries like those in electric cars.

"Bolivia's lithium belongs to the Bolivian people. Not to multinational corporate cabals." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/ ... thium-deal

The Morales move on Nov. 4 to cancel the December 2018 agreement with Germany's ACI Systems Alemania (ACISA) came after weeks of protests from residents of the Potosí area. The region has 50% to 70% of the world's lithium reserves in the Salar de Uyuni salt flats.

So that's why there was a coup. Morales wanted to nationalise their lithium reserves (second biggest in the world, making them hugely profitable and powerful) and reinvest profits back into the country as protesters demanded. But multinationals had other ideas. Bloomberg reported demand for lithium is expected to double in the next 5 years as electric cars replace fossil fuel cars. So states are moving to secure lithium sites like they did oil fields. No surprise this trade deal involved germany as a good half of the cars you see on the road are german (audi, bmw, mercedes, volskwagen etc).
look down deep enough and there's (nearly?) always money at the bottom of things. you don't even need to look that deep, here.

(the only thing i'd "disagree" with in your post, Sid, is surely 50%-70% of the world's lithium ought to make it the biggest? I don't know any facts beyond what you've posted, however)

(Edit: I've found other sources suggesting 25% and the 50-70% is combined Bolivia/Chile/Argentina - still, a whole quarter of the world's resource is clearly significant and that does make it the second largest)
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The Sunday military coup in Bolivia has put in place a government which appears likely to reverse a decision by just-resigned President Evo Morales to cancel an agreement with a German company for developing lithium deposits in the Latin American country for batteries like those in electric cars.

"Bolivia's lithium belongs to the Bolivian people. Not to multinational corporate cabals." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/ ... thium-deal

The Morales move on Nov. 4 to cancel the December 2018 agreement with Germany's ACI Systems Alemania (ACISA) came after weeks of protests from residents of the Potosí area. The region has 50% to 70% of the world's lithium reserves in the Salar de Uyuni salt flats.

So that's why there was a coup. Morales wanted to nationalise their lithium reserves (second biggest in the world, making them hugely profitable and powerful) and reinvest profits back into the country as protesters demanded. But multinationals had other ideas. Bloomberg reported demand for lithium is expected to double in the next 5 years as electric cars replace fossil fuel cars. So states are moving to secure lithium sites like they did oil fields. No surprise this trade deal involved germany as a good half of the cars you see on the road are german (audi, bmw, mercedes, volskwagen etc).
look down deep enough and there's (nearly?) always money at the bottom of things. you don't even need to look that deep, here.

(the only thing i'd "disagree" with in your post, Sid, is surely 50%-70% of the world's lithium ought to make it the biggest? I don't know any facts beyond what you've posted, however)

(Edit: I've found other sources suggesting 25% and the 50-70% is combined Bolivia/Chile/Argentina - still, a whole quarter of the world's resource is clearly significant and that does make it the second largest)
Yep. Tesla's stock value rose upon the news of the coup too, and they're obviously the number 1 user of lithium. It's crass as fuck.

Btw those stats aren't mine, they're from the article. But yeah it seems like south america is laden with lithium and thus will become the new oil fields of the middle east as demand for lithium increases a shitload. Historically they've been ravaged by colonial powers. The recent US, germany meddling is just an extention of that.

Here's an interesting development https://www.elsaltodiario.com/bolivia/l ... n-bolivia-

Translated it says 'The powerful organisation of El Alto calls for self defence committees, blockades, permanent and forceful mobilisation against the coup. This organisation was key in the fall of neoliberal president Gonzalo Sanchez in 2003.'

So it ain't over yet
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Sid wrote:
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FuB wrote:
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Sid wrote:
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The Sunday military coup in Bolivia has put in place a government which appears likely to reverse a decision by just-resigned President Evo Morales to cancel an agreement with a German company for developing lithium deposits in the Latin American country for batteries like those in electric cars.

"Bolivia's lithium belongs to the Bolivian people. Not to multinational corporate cabals." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/ ... thium-deal

The Morales move on Nov. 4 to cancel the December 2018 agreement with Germany's ACI Systems Alemania (ACISA) came after weeks of protests from residents of the Potosí area. The region has 50% to 70% of the world's lithium reserves in the Salar de Uyuni salt flats.

So that's why there was a coup. Morales wanted to nationalise their lithium reserves (second biggest in the world, making them hugely profitable and powerful) and reinvest profits back into the country as protesters demanded. But multinationals had other ideas. Bloomberg reported demand for lithium is expected to double in the next 5 years as electric cars replace fossil fuel cars. So states are moving to secure lithium sites like they did oil fields. No surprise this trade deal involved germany as a good half of the cars you see on the road are german (audi, bmw, mercedes, volskwagen etc).
look down deep enough and there's (nearly?) always money at the bottom of things. you don't even need to look that deep, here.

(the only thing i'd "disagree" with in your post, Sid, is surely 50%-70% of the world's lithium ought to make it the biggest? I don't know any facts beyond what you've posted, however)

(Edit: I've found other sources suggesting 25% and the 50-70% is combined Bolivia/Chile/Argentina - still, a whole quarter of the world's resource is clearly significant and that does make it the second largest)
Yep. Tesla's stock value rose upon the news of the coup too, and they're obviously the number 1 user of lithium. It's crass as fuck.

Btw those stats aren't mine, they're from the article. But yeah it seems like south america is laden with lithium and thus will become the new oil fields of the middle east as demand for lithium increases a shitload. Historically they've been ravaged by colonial interests, the US, germany etc fucking them up now is just an extention of that.
lithium cells are in everything now. it's easily the best battery technology we have. I agree that pound for pound, the automotive industry is going to want to use more but, up to now, Asia (and Australia) has a stranglehold on making (and mining the material for) the cells
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It also silences the voices in my head.
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FuB wrote:
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Sid wrote:
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FuB wrote:
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Sid wrote:
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The Sunday military coup in Bolivia has put in place a government which appears likely to reverse a decision by just-resigned President Evo Morales to cancel an agreement with a German company for developing lithium deposits in the Latin American country for batteries like those in electric cars.

"Bolivia's lithium belongs to the Bolivian people. Not to multinational corporate cabals." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/ ... thium-deal

The Morales move on Nov. 4 to cancel the December 2018 agreement with Germany's ACI Systems Alemania (ACISA) came after weeks of protests from residents of the Potosí area. The region has 50% to 70% of the world's lithium reserves in the Salar de Uyuni salt flats.

So that's why there was a coup. Morales wanted to nationalise their lithium reserves (second biggest in the world, making them hugely profitable and powerful) and reinvest profits back into the country as protesters demanded. But multinationals had other ideas. Bloomberg reported demand for lithium is expected to double in the next 5 years as electric cars replace fossil fuel cars. So states are moving to secure lithium sites like they did oil fields. No surprise this trade deal involved germany as a good half of the cars you see on the road are german (audi, bmw, mercedes, volskwagen etc).
look down deep enough and there's (nearly?) always money at the bottom of things. you don't even need to look that deep, here.

(the only thing i'd "disagree" with in your post, Sid, is surely 50%-70% of the world's lithium ought to make it the biggest? I don't know any facts beyond what you've posted, however)

(Edit: I've found other sources suggesting 25% and the 50-70% is combined Bolivia/Chile/Argentina - still, a whole quarter of the world's resource is clearly significant and that does make it the second largest)
Yep. Tesla's stock value rose upon the news of the coup too, and they're obviously the number 1 user of lithium. It's crass as fuck.

Btw those stats aren't mine, they're from the article. But yeah it seems like south america is laden with lithium and thus will become the new oil fields of the middle east as demand for lithium increases a shitload. Historically they've been ravaged by colonial interests, the US, germany etc fucking them up now is just an extention of that.
lithium cells are in everything now. it's easily the best battery technology we have. I agree that pound for pound, the automotive industry is going to want to use more but, up to now, Asia (and Australia) has a stranglehold on making (and mining the material for) the cells
I read the other week 3 scientists won the nobel prize for chemistry for developing lithium batteries that can charge up to 200 hours in just 10 mins

https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... -batteries

Once that's nailed down and put into production it will transform the electric car industry, thus putting greater pressure on countries like bolvia that provide the lithium. Those countries are fucked tbf. If they're not open to foreign interests in their lithium, or controlled by puppet govs, they'll get flattened like the middle east has been routinely.
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It also silences the voices in my head.
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