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10 months ago

To be honest, i really couldn't put it past the cunt to invent this as some sort of bizarre electioneering tactic... you know... man of the people and suffering with them sort of thing.
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10 months ago

Fingers crossed he doesn't make it, for the good of us all and the planet tbf
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Fingers crossed he doesn't make it, for the good of us all and the planet tbf
i think i stop short of wishing illness and death on people but it's definitely testing my morals and resolve in this instance
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Fingers crossed he doesn't make it, for the good of us all and the planet tbf
i think i stop short of wishing illness and death on people but it's definitely testing my morals and resolve in this instance
I'm not getting my hopes up tbh cos like you said I wouldn't be surprised if this was invented in order to garner sympathy and duck out of media appearances in the election campaign. That way he won't have to face questions about his awful record and the quater of a million coronavirus deaths.
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10 months ago

Trump hospitalised and having trouble breathing
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FuB wrote:
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To be honest, i really couldn't put it past the cunt to invent this as some sort of bizarre electioneering tactic... you know... man of the people and suffering with them sort of thing.
It is looking more and more like you were right.
From ghoulies and ghosties and long-leggedy beasties and things that go bump in the night, Good Lord deliver us...and while you're at it, a bit of a helping hand with hobbits wouldn't go amiss...
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FuB wrote:
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To be honest, i really couldn't put it past the cunt to invent this as some sort of bizarre electioneering tactic... you know... man of the people and suffering with them sort of thing.
It is looking more and more like you were right.
To be honest, it's probably true they all picked up the virus (now blaming the son it seems) but that does change the fact the timeline of test and his public appearances seem a bit cocked up and I was right he'd use it for electioneering.
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9 months ago

Ending Covid-19 via herd immunity is ‘a dangerous fallacy’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... us-fallacy

The concept of ending the Covid pandemic through herd immunity is “a dangerous fallacy unsupported by scientific evidence”, say 80 researchers in a warning letter published by a leading medical journal.

For anyone still believing the right wing shite about herd immunity
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9 months ago

So another national lockdown, starting next week

Once again it's after the horse has bolted and tens of thousands are gonna die

Meanwhile the economic impact is gonna be comparable to deindustrialisation now the safety nets have been taken away, mass unemployment, destitution, trauma

It's an example of how to fuck up a pandemic
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The danger is if mutations of the virus change the parts of the genome that PCR is looking for. Then you get positive people testing negative.
Can you explain this? I don't think I quite understand
PCR is a way of amplifying a specific region of DNA or RNA in a sample. The more specific tests for coronavirus use this method to detect positive samples.

I'm not 100% sure but i think the current PCR tests are looking for RNA strands that code for the spike protein of coronavirus and it's this part of the virus that's seeing mutations. It could eventually get to the point where a PCR test for the original strains won't detect newer strains because the part of the genome it's amplifying doesn't look the same anymore (and therefore it won't get "amplified").

The other tests for coronavirus are immunological tests which are looking for antibodies. I suppose these could also be rendered ineffective by enough mutations of the virus since the more specific parts of our own immune system would be looking for specific physical aspects of the virus. If those change enough, our secondary immune responses wouldn't recognise a sufficiently different virus. The immune system is pretty complex and the way it works isn't just to have things that look for jigsaw perfect fits. There's a less specific primary response which is more hammer to crack a nut - and probably what's been saving most people who get no symptoms or mild symptoms.

I'm not really particularly well qualified or knowledgeable enough to explain PCR or immunology-based ELISA tests so it might be worth you looking elsewhere for better answers.
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