Ralf’s Revolution…it’s starting.

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Nothing will change under the Glazers. Nothing.
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Yeah it was obvious that the board had written off the season in October. Really the only serious action they could have taken to salvage the season would have been to get Conte in after the first Liverpool loss. So the whole season has just been taking the fans for a ride. Again.

But at least there are signs that Ralf and maybe Murtaugh have at least persuaded the board that they have to take the football side seriously. If the changes we’re seeing in off-pitch personnel mean the club is getting serious about fixing things, that’s much more important than scraping into the European spots for another season.
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bman2 wrote: 1 year ago Yeah it was obvious that the board had written off the season in October. Really the only serious action they could have taken to salvage the season would have been to get Conte in after the first Liverpool loss. So the whole season has just been taking the fans for a ride. Again.

But at least there are signs that Ralf and maybe Murtaugh have at least persuaded the board that they have to take the football side seriously. If the changes we’re seeing in off-pitch personnel mean the club is getting serious about fixing things, that’s much more important than scraping into the European spots for another season.
The thing is though, if the board are still bypassing the football minds aka Rangnick, Murtough, his assistants etc when wanting to sign Diaz and Alvarez in Jan, what hope is there?

If I'm being a cynical cunt, this new layer of backroom staff is just more flak management from the Glazers. You can hire a top manager, coaches, consultant, install a DoF etc but if you bypass them on big footballing decisions like signing players then there's no point in having them.

Now if I'm being less cynical, and believe that the board and Glazers are serious about reforming the club by empowering the new coach, consultant, DoF etc it's one thing saying that, it's another actually making it happen. It requires organisation, skill and dedication to make it work. Do we believe these incompetent cunts can make it happen?
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Yeah we’ll just have to wait and see. Nothing the club says is worth listening to, it’s actions that count. United’s board deserves no benefit of the doubt. But at least since January we’ve seen Woodward gone, Judge gone, some of the chief scouts gone. So maybe, just maybe they’ve finally seen sense. And Rangnick is hammering the way United has done things in every press conference now. So either he doesn’t give a fuck anymore, or he senses that the tide has turned in the club’s politics, and that at least some of the board will listen to what he has to say.

Leaving us depending entirely on 37 year old Ronaldo for goals is a fitting last football decision of the Woodward era. Sums up that idiot perfectly.
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Giving the club the benefit of the doubt, I can see why they might be reluctant to sign a player before a new manager is on board, and confirm if that player fits his system.
But then, surely that's exactly what murtugh and rangnick are supposed to be doing, highlighting players for the club to fit a system the club wants to play, and you can slot in any manager who plays the style the club want.
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dozer wrote: 1 year ago For United to be considered as a serious club they must sack rangnick before the last game. Reject his fucking consultancy. He's been fucking shite on the pitch. Probably our worst manager ever?
Reject his consultancy?! It’s with Ralf having been at the club the past few months that he’s identified and spoken out aloud what the club needs doing. Perhaps some credit to him for the changes to the back room mgmt.

Agreed, he’s one of the worst managers we’ve ever had but surely no one expected him to be anything other than an interim just holding the position for the next perm. If we’d have got Conte in, it’d be the same story ie a couple of seasons and £500m later we’d have sacked him.
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As a manager, yeah he's been shite. And we've basically had managers for several years that the club and players haven't really bought into.

The one thing that he's done, which will hopefully prove crucial over time, is properly expose the shortcomings of the club. There can be no more glossing over, or attempts to solve this shit by 'tweaks'
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Neither the board or the squad seemed to give a shit about the rest of the season, and the senior coaches quit after he was hired, so it's really fucking odd to keep banging on about Rangnick's management as if this was a normal situation.
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fat maradona wrote: 1 year ago
dozer wrote: 1 year ago For United to be considered as a serious club they must sack rangnick before the last game. Reject his fucking consultancy. He's been fucking shite on the pitch. Probably our worst manager ever?
Reject his consultancy?! It’s with Ralf having been at the club the past few months that he’s identified and spoken out aloud what the club needs doing. Perhaps some credit to him for the changes to the back room mgmt.

Agreed, he’s one of the worst managers we’ve ever had but surely no one expected him to be anything other than an interim just holding the position for the next perm. If we’d have got Conte in, it’d be the same story ie a couple of seasons and £500m later we’d have sacked him.
Fair enough. I'd keep his consultant role. At least he has prior experience there.
I was really annoyed after the game when I posted that earlier.
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I think we need a bit of a reality check here.
When the hobbit got sacked, we were seventh.
We are now sixth.
Ralf has spelled out, in no uncertain terms, what is wrong with the club and the current squad and what needs to be done.
He has shown what a shambles the scouting has been and presumably had a hand in its reshaping.
He has shown that the current squad are incapable or uninterested in playing modern football.
He’s been totally candid in interviews about the mess we are in and how to fix it.
What’s not to like?
This has been an absolute train wreck of a club for years. Carping on about the results in this context utterly misses the point.
Ralf has given the board and the owners a blueprint for the future. He can’t force them to action it but if they don’t, after the candid way Ralf has spelled out the issues, then it will be clear for all to see where the blame really lies. For that I, for one, am extremely grateful.
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