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It's worrying to see City winning so many games comfortably without a striker. Makes you wonder how good they're gonna be next season when they have them all fit - and maybe even a new one. I can't see us closing the gap over summer - or at all under the current status quo with Ed & the Glazers and Pep & the oil barrels.

Maybe we should concetrate our efforts on winning the european super league in a couple of season. Only half joking.
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Can this topic be edited to top 4 race?!

Can honestly see liverpool surpassing us, as well as others with the current form.

They could be a point behind after the weekends games.
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Sid wrote:
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It's worrying to see City winning so many games comfortably without a striker. Makes you wonder how good they're gonna be next season when they have them all fit - and maybe even a new one. I can't see us closing the gap over summer - or at all under the current status quo with Ed & the Glazers and Pep & the oil barrels.

Maybe we should concetrate our efforts on winning the european super league in a couple of season. Only half joking.
The super league is definitely happening, and we might end up being grateful for it. Look at the table now — this is what the PL might look like for the foreseeable future. It’s turning into the French league, with the petrostate-owned club totally dominant. City will spend big this summer, going for Haaland and a couple of others, the economic situation doesn’t affect them.
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bman2 wrote:
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Sid wrote:
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It's worrying to see City winning so many games comfortably without a striker. Makes you wonder how good they're gonna be next season when they have them all fit - and maybe even a new one. I can't see us closing the gap over summer - or at all under the current status quo with Ed & the Glazers and Pep & the oil barrels.

Maybe we should concetrate our efforts on winning the european super league in a couple of season. Only half joking.
The super league is definitely happening, and we might end up being grateful for it. Look at the table now — this is what the PL might look like for the foreseeable future. It’s turning into the French league, with the petrostate-owned club totally dominant. City will spend big this summer, going for Haaland and a couple of others, the economic situation doesn’t affect them.
Aye, and the ones it does affect need cash. Like Barca are fucked. They owe 1.2bn euros. 730m of that is short term debt. They owe a lot of clubs delayed transfer payments. These clubs are also struggling with covid losses too, so they want paying. Police raided their offices the other day and made arrests. It's that bad. Madrid are in a similar situation although it's not as urgent. Their debt is nearly a 1bn euros.

So a euro super league which will bring in a shitload more money than la liga is a lifeline. It will be Prem levels, and then some because it's a league containing europe's biggest most affluent fanbases which is what sponsors and broadcasters want. Otherwise Barca & Madrid could be looking at a long period of stagnation while they get their finances in order. Thinking of Milan and Inter who've been midtable for a good 10/15 years.
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https://www.espn.co.uk/football/barcelo ... ric-garcia

Everything's not just fine: over a billion euros in debt; wages accounting for 74% of the budget; a short-term debt of €720m; €186m in amortisations; a €488m loss in 2019-20; the need, somehow, to raise almost €200m this summer alone; a negative working capital of €602m; a long list of players to be paid for.

This stuff started post-2008 crash when the spanish state called time on the endless spending of Madrid and Barca, which was a populist move and also helped put spain on the global map, and started going after tax cheats to recoup income. Not just clubs but individuals like Mourinho, Messi, Ronaldo (who was so offended he left for Juve). But Barca kept spending to maintain their position in the global order. But now it's time to pay up. Previously they would have just 'done a Leeds'. And if they remain an isolated case then they might. But these days 'too big to fail' is the mantra of giant capitalist institutions, and that possibly applies to europe's top clubs who see the european super league as a lifeline.
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Sid wrote:
6 months ago
bman2 wrote:
6 months ago
Sid wrote:
7 months ago
It's worrying to see City winning so many games comfortably without a striker. Makes you wonder how good they're gonna be next season when they have them all fit - and maybe even a new one. I can't see us closing the gap over summer - or at all under the current status quo with Ed & the Glazers and Pep & the oil barrels.

Maybe we should concetrate our efforts on winning the european super league in a couple of season. Only half joking.
The super league is definitely happening, and we might end up being grateful for it. Look at the table now — this is what the PL might look like for the foreseeable future. It’s turning into the French league, with the petrostate-owned club totally dominant. City will spend big this summer, going for Haaland and a couple of others, the economic situation doesn’t affect them.
Aye, and the ones it does affect need cash. Like Barca are fucked. They owe 1.2bn euros. 730m of that is short term debt. They owe a lot of clubs delayed transfer payments. These clubs are also struggling with covid losses too, so they want paying. Police raided their offices the other day and made arrests. It's that bad. Madrid are in a similar situation although it's not as urgent. Their debt is nearly a 1bn euros.

So a euro super league which will bring in a shitload more money than la liga is a lifeline. It will be Prem levels, and then some because it's a league containing europe's biggest most affluent fanbases which is what sponsors and broadcasters want. Otherwise Barca & Madrid could be looking at a long period of stagnation while they get their finances in order. Thinking of Milan and Inter who've been midtable for a good 10/15 years.
That’s absolutely right, clubs like Barca and Real are desperate for it now, it’s not just United pushing it. The two likely outcomes are the PL falling into a situation like the German, Italian, and French leagues, where one single club (in this case it would be City) dominates the league and only rarely doesn’t win the title. Or, with the super league, you maybe get a return to the 2000s, when champions league money made a pretty static top four type situation.
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