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There's a story that United and Liverpool are proposing some big reform of English football. The poem would have 18 clubs, and what's in it for them is that it would be easier for the big six clubs to decide things by themselves. The pay off is that it seems like there'd be more money given to the other leagues and the FA.
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bman2 wrote:
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There's a story that United and Liverpool are proposing some big reform of English football. The poem would have 18 clubs, and what's in it for them is that it would be easier for the big six clubs to decide things by themselves. The pay off is that it seems like there'd be more money given to the other leagues and the FA.
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/bl ... -the-table

The proposal put forward by United & Liverpool: that the Premier League should share a net 25% of its future TV deals with the English Football League, and provide £250m immediately to help the 72 EFL clubs through their financial crisis.

The 25% for the EFL is mostly to be found by reducing the Premier League to 18 clubs – the original 1990 FA proposal that was never implemented – and scrapping parachute payments, rather than ceding the money out of Old Trafford or Anfield revenues.

United and Liverpool envisage their time being freed for more Champions League matches, which will happen anyway from 2024 when Uefa’s competition is inevitably expanded, and lucrative pre-season tours. They insist their proposals are not an effort to seize more of the Premier League TV money but it is likely other Premier League clubs will get less. It will make it more difficult to break into the top six; the more even competition will be created in the relegation zone.
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I saw a representative of an EFL club on telly this morning and he was raving about the deal. The 250m was irresistible. But tbf many clubs are facing financial meltdown so you can't blame em. But I think they're being blinded by the cash. It amounts to a pay off for the top Prem clubs to consolidate power. The type of capitalist scum that run us and Liverpool don't go offering 250m out of the goodness of their hearts
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Sid wrote:
11 months ago
bman2 wrote:
11 months ago
There's a story that United and Liverpool are proposing some big reform of English football. The poem would have 18 clubs, and what's in it for them is that it would be easier for the big six clubs to decide things by themselves. The pay off is that it seems like there'd be more money given to the other leagues and the FA.
Some details here

https://www.theguardian.com/football/bl ... -the-table

The proposal put forward by United & Liverpool: that the Premier League should share a net 25% of its future TV deals with the English Football League, and provide £250m immediately to help the 72 EFL clubs through their financial crisis.

The 25% for the EFL is mostly to be found by reducing the Premier League to 18 clubs – the original 1990 FA proposal that was never implemented – and scrapping parachute payments, rather than ceding the money out of Old Trafford or Anfield revenues.

United and Liverpool envisage their time being freed for more Champions League matches, which will happen anyway from 2024 when Uefa’s competition is inevitably expanded, and lucrative pre-season tours. They insist their proposals are not an effort to seize more of the Premier League TV money but it is likely other Premier League clubs will get less. It will make it more difficult to break into the top six; the more even competition will be created in the relegation zone.
Not only will it solidify the top 6, it'll make the financial incentive for winning trophies even less compelling than it is now. i.e. the revenue for finishing 4th will be broadly similar to winning the league, so why spend what's needed to even try.

The EFL clubs in the lower leagues seem to be in favour though. Probably because they're desperate.
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Sid wrote:
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bman2 wrote:
11 months ago
There's a story that United and Liverpool are proposing some big reform of English football. The poem would have 18 clubs, and what's in it for them is that it would be easier for the big six clubs to decide things by themselves. The pay off is that it seems like there'd be more money given to the other leagues and the FA.
Some details here

https://www.theguardian.com/football/bl ... -the-table

The proposal put forward by United & Liverpool: that the Premier League should share a net 25% of its future TV deals with the English Football League, and provide £250m immediately to help the 72 EFL clubs through their financial crisis.

The 25% for the EFL is mostly to be found by reducing the Premier League to 18 clubs – the original 1990 FA proposal that was never implemented – and scrapping parachute payments, rather than ceding the money out of Old Trafford or Anfield revenues.

United and Liverpool envisage their time being freed for more Champions League matches, which will happen anyway from 2024 when Uefa’s competition is inevitably expanded, and lucrative pre-season tours. They insist their proposals are not an effort to seize more of the Premier League TV money but it is likely other Premier League clubs will get less. It will make it more difficult to break into the top six; the more even competition will be created in the relegation zone.
Not only will it solidify the top 6, it'll make the financial incentive for winning trophies even less compelling than it is now. i.e. the revenue for finishing 4th will be broadly similar to winning the league, so why spend what's needed to even try.

The EFL clubs in the lower leagues seem to be in favour though. Probably because they're desperate.
United and Ed could be playing with fire there in the sense that we're not looking anything like top 6 material right now.
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11 months ago

Quite right Sid. It could end up being like Turkey's voting for Christmas. And whilst the financial gap between 1st and 4th won't be huge, the difference between in and out of the CL will grow further. And we're hardly shoe-ins for that.
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They're trying to get the FA on side by promising em 100m. That shows you the levels they're going to to get this through. Liverpool and United have clearly been in cahoots for a while, and they've chosen now to go public cos clubs are desperate.

IMO the end goal is to give the top clubs a greater share of the broadcast money. 9 clubs have a vote but only 6 have to agree to get something passed aka the top 6.

Tell you what though it would be nice if the Glazers were focused on making us good again rather than trying to rig the league
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The top 6/9 would have the power to veto takeovers of clubs too - so prevent a billionaire buying a shite club and barging their way into the top 6. Or fan ownership if there ever was such a thing. It's a total consolodation of power.
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So this crap is what the club has been working on the past few months, instead of signing players. FFS.
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EFL clubs agree to put their support behind Project Big Picture

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ig-picture

It could actually happen this. Some clubs are weeks away from not existing anymore. And that 250m is immediate. The money hits the bank account straight away.

It's pretty sick to see United & Liverpool hold these clubs to ransom. Agree or face oblivion. 250m is a lot but smallfry when you think the Glazers have paid double that and then some in interest. And then double that and then some on refinancing. And then half that in dividends. Literally a billion wasted. A quarter of that would save English football. Fucked up
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